Thanks for that mccowan. I was there Friday night...didn't put in till after dark back at the steep ramp. Didn't even fire the big motor. Caught 26 n about half were keepers. A couple were purty good ones with shoulders. All on minnows. I didn't even try a jig that night...probably should have. I know what you mean on the light bite. Had to keep close watch...many times I just saw the line go slack, lift and there he was. Not nearly as aggressive as a month ago down there. I've had a good year @ Cedar 2016. And I ain't quit yet.