Howdy Lyndon , to all who don't want yo know I was the one who requested the info for posting his guide service , thanks for the kind words , really enjoyed talkin with you at the bass pro and been reading all the posts I can on here . Some really good info on this site can't wait to try some of it out. Don't know if I can wait till end of march. My wife is tired of me talking about it. haha, see you soon old guide hope you stay busy catchen them specks.