I concur 100% Reaper I believe if you fish the river's that are really murky anything will do I prefer jig's with spinners on them for flash and vibration when the fish get active and like to chase I have good luck on cranks, tube's and the cream Lil fishies im lucky in one sense I drive right past their factory going to work every day I stop in often and check out there new products and they'll usally give Me some to test when the water is clear or their shallow and they've been hard pressed you better have something that looks very real these are the days alot of people don't do well and other's limit.