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Thread: Got the Stuff, Made some jigs, Time to try them out!

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    On the wraps, start with not so tight and then after it is held you can make tighter wraps.

    What I do on short hooks like #6 Sickle (not all jigs) that you don't have room to get a good thread base, because you really need that so it doesn't roll around. If I am tying jig that are giving me that trouble I have some super glue with a brush applicator so I can limit how much I use and I put a small amount on my thread base to keep it in place. You can dab it with a paper towel to get any excess off. Then I get my tail material in place and if it's deer hair I make the first wraps not so tight and then tighten after the first few and keep away from the lowest wrap, the one near the hair tail. I don't remember having that trouble (flaring) with kip tails though.

    I mostly use my hand for the real tension with the bobbin doing a little tension. I also use 210 denier flat waxed thread for the most part on jigs.

    I use my on made Flexament for coating thread neck type jigs as it will flex some.

    For cheap Fleximent...
    Flexament is diluted Goop or Shoe Goo. The thinner or solvent is Toluene (Toluol). You can have a lifetime (almost) supply of flexament for about $10. Ace Hdwr. sells Toluene in a quart can for $5-something. A tube of goop is about $4. Squirt some goop in a glass container, then pour in some toluene, and mix it up, let it sit, and mix again until it's dissolved, and you have flexament.

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    Thanks Skip. Does it look like I have used too much kip and maybe that is causing the flaring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogpaw View Post
    Thanks Skip. Does it look like I have used too much kip and maybe that is causing the flaring?
    That may be your problem as I never had kip tail hair flair. You notice it's not exactly straight hair and has some kinky to it so the more you use the fatter it will be after the tie off. If you use less it will be a smaller profile for sure and it shouldn't flair at all really. It is just the bulk of the curly hair not wanting to lay flat that makes it look fat.

    You know if you use some material that is really straight it will stay that way. Notice kip tails when you hold it tight it is not near as big as it is when you let go. The curly nature of it holds lots of air and space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogpaw View Post
    Covering thread with hard as nails clear.

    I wrapped the thread down that far to make the tail pull in instead of fluffing out so much. How would you normally overcome that? I started with a loose wrap first and tightened it to the bobbin tension.

    You are seeiing correctly that is thread. Danville 6/0 flat waxed.

    I appreciate the help and welcome any comments. They will help fine tune or completely change my process.
    Like Ship said try not to make the collar so long.. On my smaller jigs i like to make them no more than an 1/8" wide... But that will take some practice but you will get the hang of it soon enough... That Kip tail is tricky to work with when you are first starting out you might wanna try Marabou or Feathers the IMHO are easier to work with... But it looks like you are grasping a hold on it and soon you will be putting it all together...
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