When I am ready to tie in the tail, I take on tip and stack 2 or more V's on top. Then I pick them up I. Left hand and make ends even, then I pinch them with my right hand to hold and then I use my left hand to pinch them together from the side and hold in place to tie in. You have to have the tail a little on the side to you so when wrapping the thread it will roll over a little and hope it stops right on top, but if not once the wrapping has got as far back to the hook bend as your going its time to place it were it needs to be. Them pinch hook and thread tight and warp back to the head. It will not move any more!