Thanks guys. This Roadrunner head is what they call a Marabou 2 head and it has a darn collar and barb so I either have to tie a shorter than normal body of do a thread neck. I do have some shinny stuff like diamond braid and one called Poly Glimmer I think plus one more of that type I have been thinking about using. I may have a picture of e 3 ways I will show to see what everyone thinks.