Thanks gang - felt real good!!! gotta get used to the maribou again though LOL

Skeet - on that chartreuse and purple I have no idea what color the chenille is I got it in the material swap box, so if anyone can tell me what it is and who carries it, cause I definately got to get more I like it!!!

ifish - no problem anymore since I use tin foil around the swivel. Tried your water way and it just slowed me down too much.