thanks fellas i appreciate the input.i was so dang busy from may till nov i didnt get much time to fish or tye jigs cause of that stinkin flood.i work for the city of hendersonville parks and rec dept and had just total devastation from the flood.we r still working on stuff today trying to get ready for spring.i guess 15 inches of rain in 2 days will do it every time especially when there is a creek running through the park.anyways glad to be back tying hopefully i can make afew u guys will like in the near future