Took quite a while to trim them. The ones from the new mold didn't take too much trouble to trim, but the older on one was something. I have some real good side cutters, small ones, used with the tiny electronics that are real hard and trim things easy. Trying to pour with a cast iron pot and ladle was a real experience too. It was fun but a chore with basic equipment. I can see where a production pot makes it much easier. And I think pure lead would be easier. My time is so tight that this was just a try. I'll probably buy what I need til I get some better equipment. Thanx Fatman, for everything.