I know one thing for sure we will be sending some of our business to crazangler prices are really good I know because I buy from the very best out there matter-of-fact some other prices are below what I paid wholesale for one other place that wasn't mentioned zucker feather products . hagen"s also has some jig materials any other place out West here is Engler's workshop it is full of fly tying materials they carry a wide variety everything you need or fly tying you can get it there we have one other place to mention where I picked up my jig heads these are just basic ball head type jigs he does carry mental type heads also kg enterprise,inc. I hope this will help some you guys out there are tons of places on the Internet to buy feathers from and materials one thing I forgot to mention Wal-Mart sells a thread that is the very strong coats&clark outdoor comes in 200 yards spools you'll have to spool it off onto smaller spools very strong you cannot break it with your hands comes in a wide variety of colors also they Kerry glow-in-the-dark thread catch everyone later