Great thread. I started flyfishing 15 years ago,The price of flies were so high that I bought a cheap vise and materials and went to work tying my own. I'd ask my wife how the looked even though she doesn't fish. One day she told me they would look better if they had eyes. I had some painted jigs so I tied them and liked the way they looked.I started buying jigs in bulk,discovered powder paint,started painting and tying,started selling them to guys at work.The more you tie the better you get.In 2004 I put some on ebay and they sold so I put more up and they sold.Honest,my record amount for a dozen of my flashducks sold for $61.00 this past February.I've learned even more thanks to cc,which is my fun site.Thanks everyone...