some people swear by em, i really dont like using them, never had much luck with em, BUT i guess its all on how you use em. I would reather have a stick tail grub or slab slayer if i vertical jig which i very rarely do and when i spider rig which i only do a few times a year i like to use the Ron Zip jigs or either Slater jigs. if we knew where you were located someone could prob also help ya a lil more