thanks guys for all the good comments they are a ton of fun to make and I'm glad to see him here that they do actually work for something as simple as that but you never know what may catch fish may be very shocking years ago I was fishing with the young man probably in his 40s and I was 16 I was using marabou jigs and he was using nylon bristle type of a jig the bristles were so stiff I do not know how the world that that thing caught fish but he was out fishing me 10 to 1 he was getting ready to go home and I asked him if I could buy one of those jigs from him he simply handed me one and right away I started catching fish so that shows to tell you you never know what is going to catch fish.