yeah some of them penns are great, one of the longest casters i seen in texs was this black guy named "buster" .. well buster was a good 6 foot 8 and weighed bout 150 pounds soaking wet... used a 14 foot rod and penn squidders and could launch the bejesus out of it... many time he could get where we could not and would outfish us, but ocassionally he would over cast the fish and could never be convinced to cast shorter...him and this other long caster named rich rodriquez used to have contests at the peirs sometimes for cash when fish just werent biting. there was one time rich who would get mad when boats would get close to the peirs.. now by texas law boats cant be within 200 yars of the peir.. well this one boat was maybe 150 yards and rich told him to move and the guy gave him the finger.. rich launches a 6 oz weight that goes threw the the guys windshild and knocks him dead on his buttocks..needless to say he was back out there fishing after we collected bail money for him lol