Help with spider rig.

[novorandall]

I'm new to spider rigging and had a couple questions about the rigs. I've noticed that when fishing a double jig (or hook) rig, most guys put the weight (usually an egg sinker) fixed BETWEEN the 2 baits. I was wondering what might be the advantage of putting the weight there and not above the baits, or even below? And also, wouldn't you want the line to slide through the sinker and not have it fixed in place? Wouldn't that keep the fish from feeling the weight a little better? Or am I all mixed up on this rig? Does anyone have an opinion?

[Tony the Tiger]

I use and like the Caps and Colman rig although I tie my own rigs. You can do a search using the advanced search tool at the top of this page and get information and see diagrams. Hope this helps

[callen]

Here on Kentucky lake, they have commercially tied and sold minnow rigs for as long as I can remember, 40 years for sure. They have always been available both ways. I like them with the weight on bottom spider rigging, when fish are hugging the bottom of the lake. I just let it fall to the bottom and reel up a half round.

[Cray]

I tie my own C&C rigs with weight in middle. I tie a swivel at top not a 3 way, I pull about a foot of line through and tie a clinch knot, not the improve clinch, then cut off tag to about 6-8 inches and tie in a #1 duo lock snap. Then I measure off 20 inches of line from the swivel for main line, cut it off slide on egg sinker then a small bead then a #8 swivel then tie a 8-10 in dropper with another #1 Duo Lock snap. 2 things I believe the weight sliding does keep them from feeling the weight when they hit up on bottom hook. And I use snaps because I can change out baits with out having to stop remove rig wind up then unwind new rig and hook up just to change a bait. And the fish don't seem to mind at all.

[cause]

I tie my own C&C rigs with weight in middle.

are there any photos of these rig on the site?

[CrappiePappy]

are there any photos of these rig on the site?

(borrowed from a 2012 article by "Special K" )

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Now, the original Capps/Coleman double rig was more like this :



The principle is the same, but the barrel sinker just has the line looped through it enough times to hold it on there ... whereas the "improved" version adds a swivel on the line to hold the barrel sinker in place.

... cp

[novorandall]

(borrowed from a 2012 article by "Special K" )

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Now, the original Capps/Coleman double rig was more like this :



The principle is the same, but the barrel sinker just has the line looped through it enough times to hold it on there ... whereas the "improved" version adds a swivel on the line to hold the barrel sinker in place.

... cp

That improved C&C is the one I've been using with Cray's idea of using the tag end on the top hook and the snaps added. It's been working really well so far. Thanks for all the advise guys. If the weather breaks and this snow melts, maybe I can get a few rigs in the WATER!!!

[Slabbo]

Good afternoon guys,

I am new to spider rigging and have actually not even attempted to try it yet,but I have been gathering all the essential tools. I have been lurking on this site and trying to come to some sort of compromise as to how's the best way to rig. I have watched several videos and listened to several discussions here. I guess one question is if I wanted to fish a minnow on top and a jig on bottom, Capps/Coleman rig minus the minnow hook on bottom, would you avoid the egg sinker altogether with say a 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz jig head? I watched a video on YouTube with Tim Blackley and Carl Kalonka on Lake Washington in Mississippi and it appears they had some single jigs rigged with a variety of lures fishing in a few feet of water. Have any of you been successful rigging with a single jig and if so what size weights do you use?

[CrappiePappy]

Good afternoon guys,

I am new to spider rigging and have actually not even attempted to try it yet,but I have been gathering all the essential tools. I have been lurking on this site and trying to come to some sort of compromise as to how's the best way to rig. I have watched several videos and listened to several discussions here. I guess one question is if I wanted to fish a minnow on top and a jig on bottom, Capps/Coleman rig minus the minnow hook on bottom, would you avoid the egg sinker altogether with say a 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz jig head? I watched a video on YouTube with Tim Blackley and Carl Kalonka on Lake Washington in Mississippi and it appears they had some single jigs rigged with a variety of lures fishing in a few feet of water. Have any of you been successful rigging with a single jig and if so what size weights do you use?

I think you'd be better served to keep the center weight, regardless whether you have a jig/jig - jig/hook - hook/hook setup on your "rigs". That weight "can" help you dislodge a snagged jig or hook. It also helps keep the lines +/- vertical at Spider Rigging speeds.

I, personally, don't use the "two bait" rigs ... and simply run a single jig under a 1/2oz or 3/4oz egg weight, on a 12-18" leader of 6lb test mono. Main lines on my long poles are heavy braid. The braid is there simply because it was on there when I bought the reels (used). The egg sinkers are on the main (braid) line, and held there by the duo-lock snap tied on the end of the braid. Then a jig (or hook) on a leader can easily be snapped into the duo-lock, since there's a loop knot on the opposite end of the leader from the jig. Break-offs or changing jigs are quickly resolved.

I'm pretty new at this, myself ... so I decided to keep it simple, for now. And I don't really "spider rig" per se ... as I only have 3 long rods (14'). I mostly do what most people refer to as "pushing" jigs ... since the rods are out the front & have added weight on the line, plus I'm moving at anywhere from 0.5mph - 0.8mph as a rule ...so my lines are generally angled back at about 45 degrees. Most people consider "spider rigging" as using more rods, and moving much slower ... with their main lines nearly vertical from the rod tip to the water.

I am enjoying using the long rods & "pushing" jigs, and have been fairly successful doing it. I still "prefer" to cast a jig, as I've been doing that for over 40yrs ... and the long pole fishing is just an option, right now. If/when I decide to make the long pole methods my primary way to fish ... I'm going to have to pony up some serious $$$, since I would likely purchase a variable speed 24V trolling motor - extra battery - lake map chip for my depth finder - two more rod holders - and several more 14' rod/reel setups. I'm not quite ready for that big of a commitment, though. I'm doing OK with the setups I currently have & use.

... cp

[Cray]

Good afternoon guys,

I am new to spider rigging and have actually not even attempted to try it yet,but I have been gathering all the essential tools. I have been lurking on this site and trying to come to some sort of compromise as to how's the best way to rig. I have watched several videos and listened to several discussions here. I guess one question is if I wanted to fish a minnow on top and a jig on bottom, Capps/Coleman rig minus the minnow hook on bottom, would you avoid the egg sinker altogether with say a 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz jig head? I watched a video on YouTube with Tim Blackley and Carl Kalonka on Lake Washington in Mississippi and it appears they had some single jigs rigged with a variety of lures fishing in a few feet of water. Have any of you been successful rigging with a single jig and if so what size weights do you use?

Washington is for the most part pretty shallow and fish will suspend in the 3-4 ft range a lot thus the single hook set up. I fish single hook on bottom a lot in less tha 7-8 ft of water. I usually run. 1/2 oz weight and 90% of the time I have a 1/8 poney head with jig and tipped with minnow. Water deeper than 7 2 hook rig with 1/2 to 3/4 weight, jig on bottom bare hook or teaser on top with minnow.