Thanks guys....Creek it was spur of the moment that I decided to go but I almost called you to see if you wanted to take a boat ride but then I figured you were pretty busy getting ready for this weekend.....your right ceb, but I would probably forget to push the darn clicker a couple of times and end up over my limit....and with a ticket!....that is if I could catch a limit...lol....WestTennCrappie....I've been fishing Greer's Ferry lake trolling Bandit 300's in 50'-70' of water along a creek channel with submerged timber. If you ever get over this way I'd be happy to point you in the right direction. I've learned a lot from this site and will pretty much try to help anyone if I can.