Thanks DP, I agree with you. I'm seriously considering the basic Savage 270 scoped combos. Good price and a package deal. I've been given good reviews on them for such a simple gun. I looked into having my 8mm scoped and that's just not going to happen. Buying the scope is no problem but it is a WWII vintage gun and would have to be drilled and tapped for mounts, etc. Not that I care that happen to the rifle but I've not found a gunsmith confident and willing to do it. I guess I'll just have to treat myself one day with a new gun and scope. Maybe a .300mag. Little guys like BIG guns, lol.