Hi Ceb....I picked them up at Wally world....they just call them a bitsy minnow.....I just stuck a pole out each side of the boat then put my motor in gear and idled along....the speed seemed better that way than using the TM. Depth didn't really seem to matter as I was picking them up in 8-25 ft. of water. If I got much shallower they started bumping the bottom. I used a white and Char. w/red throat and a green and black with red throat one. The green and black was the best by about 3 to 1. One thing I found was they are not tuned very well and had to be slightly adjusted to make them run straight. Also when casted they seem to foul up with themselves, hook hung up on the lip or the line so I started dropping them over the side, made sure they were running correctly, then let the line out while trolling. You can really feel a vibration through the line when they are running correctly, which surprised me with such a small crank bait. If you give it a try let me know how you do.....