They are a top water. The ribitz is a frog that basically runs like a buzz bait. you crank it in fast and the legs slap the water. The spro and Live target frogs fish similar to a poper. Cast it out into the grass/pads and work it across the top of them. I hesitate for a second every time it falls off a pad then twitch then move on working it until it gets about 10 feet outside the pads. then crank in and make another cast. Koppers Live Target Hollow Body Frog