Thanks a bunch guys. I am gaining confidence every time I go fishing now because you all share your knowledge and experience. I'm better at vertical jigging and spider rigging now. PP 10/2 hi vis has spoiled me when single poling. lol. That thump is additive. I've learned about line size and types, hook size, jig head weight, jig body shapes and colors. Yes, I believe crappie hold a tube injected with nibbles longer because I was missing fish without it. Spider rigging, 4 poles is all I can keep up with by myself with boat control, hang ups, etc. I'm using 2 small HB 2D units right now but I heard Santa is bring me a Garmin Striker 7sv. I've got Nav Maps on my phone. I like it a lot. SP, if those fish are headed to the shallows, I'll be there waiting every Saturday that I can go. Blessings guys!!