yes guys sometimes the fish do not want no action at all to know if you guys are familiar with the silverfish but I use a 1 inch size there is little or no tail action just a little bit of vibration in the fish go crazy over it this fall I won't have to pull some pictures for you to see what we're talking about but for many years here locally they use a little jig made out of fibers from feathers no action a little bit of vibration these jigs were about 180s very small but this is what the fish were hitting apparently they were eating small fry or something similar so this is why we should all carry no action plastics or some type of Jig that has no action I believe in warmer water when the temperatures get up about 65 the fish will be more tempted to take more action type of plastics this is very good information definitely on this post guys I'm sure that people will learn a lot by reading good job guys.