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    Post Official DNR response to Wawasee issue and motorboats within 200 ft of shore


    ATTENTION: Official DNR letter from legal council about this issue. Thank you, Indiana DNR Div. of Fish and Wildlife

    See below:

    June 17, 2014

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I write to you in response to recent discussions that have taken place regarding the Agreed Order entered into by the Department of Natural Resources ("DNR") and property owners Anchor LLC and Randall J. Tobias and Sargent H P LLC ("property owners"). A copy of the Agreed Order is enclosed for your reference.

    In November 2013, the property owners applied for a permit from the DNR to place posts offshore of their properties. The posts were intended to support signs with language regarding the mooring or anchoring of boats within 200 feet of the shoreline. The DNR denied the permit request on grounds that the posts would create a navigational hazard for the boating public. The property owners appealed the DNR’s denial to the Natural Resources Commission (NRC), an autonomous board that addresses issues pertaining to the Indiana Department of Natural Resources. The NRC assigned an administrative law judge to hear the appeal. In May 2014, the parties reached a settlement agreement approved by the administrative law judge that allows for the placement of temporary buoys 175 feet from the respective shorelines. The buoys are required to be of a material that, if struck by a watercraft, would cause little or no damage. The agreement further provides that the landowners may place signs on the buoys; the DNR is without authority to regulate what language the property owners post on signage in his or her respective riparian zone. The Agreed Order applies solely to the parties named in the order.
    The Indiana Lakes Preservation Act, IC 14-26-2, provides that the natural resources and the natural scenic beauty of Indiana are a "public right" and that the public has a "vested right" in the preservation, protection, and enjoyment of all freshwater lakes in Indiana. As part of the Agreed Order, the parties agreed that while the public has a vested right in all freshwater lakes, there are certain restrictions to that right. Specifically, IC 14-15-3-17 limits the operation of a motorboat within 200 feet of the shoreline of a public freshwater lake to those activities stated in the statute.

    As it has consistently enforced in the past, it is the DNR’s position that a motorboat that is moored or anchored is not in operation for the purposes of IC 14-15-3-17. As a result, the Department will continue to not take action against any individual who has moored or anchored his or her boat within 200 feet of shoreline, provided the individuals onboard have abided by all other applicable operating laws in arriving at that point. At the same time, the DNR will promptly and diligently respond to any call that advises that anchored or moored boats are preventing egress or ingress from a citizen’s property or where occupants of the moored or anchored boats are coming upon the shoreline and trespassing on private property. The DNR will also respond to complaints that the occupants of the
    watercraft are littering and/or violating any other applicable infraction or law. We have received communication from the Kosciusko County Sheriff’s Department, who has advised that after reviewing the Agreed Order and applicable statutes, their interpretation of IC 14-15-3-17 will remain unchanged and consistent with the DNR; that an individual is not prohibited from anchoring within 200 feet of the shoreline of any public freshwater lake.

    As noted, the Agreed Order applies solely to the parties named in the order. Pursuant to 312 IAC 11- 3-1, property owners may place a buoy out to 150 feet of their property without first seeking a permit from the DNR. Any buoys placed that do not comply with the general license requirements of 312 IAC 11-3-1 would be required to first seek a permit from the DNR.
    Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

    Sincerely,

    Joe Hoage
    General Council
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    Welcome to the site and thank you for clearing up the issue!

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    Yes,,welcome,,and thanks for the great posting. I hope you continue to use this site as we need to always know of any changes in fishing laws and rules,,and hope you keep us loop of information. I think DNR handled this in everybody's best interests as its been brewing for a long time. Just hope that the private shoreline owners don't demand more so I will keep my fingers crossed on that one..time will tell. I feel for the northern fishermen on those gorgeous northern natural lakes and waters sometimes as its a really crowded 2 way street.

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    We're always available to clear up any questions you may have. If we don't post here feel free to email us anytime at [email protected] and we'll answer your questions. We also monitor our facebook and twitter pages daily. So feel free to ask questions there anytime as well.

    We'll do our best to keep you updated on here as well!
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    thank you and welcome to the site IDFW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by river scum View Post
    thank you and welcome to the site IDFW.
    You're welcome!

    We often post news on facebook as well at: https://www.facebook.com/INfishandwildlife

    And answer questions from the public. Feel free to contact us there as well.

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    You boys just need to get a big ole caravan of trollers and troll your rears off in front of these properties all day during the next holiday weekend. Long lining for crappie. Then bring a flotilla of boats and anchor about 201 feet out from the same buoys while conducting an informal catfish tournament. Said tourney should also take place on the next holiday weekend when the big wigs are sure to be present. Sometimes you gotta go guerrilla.

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    Anybody that is up there,,please post what they put on the bouys for signage or postings please as DNR cannot control what they post on these bouys. I still say, "you give them a inch,,and eventually they will take a mile." This is not the end of this and just the beginning. Time will tell.

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    PWC's most likely played a part in this problem. If all else fails those that can should fish out of state and all should not buy hunting/fishing license or equipment. Your right big money does talk and no fee money or tax money also talks. Those that depend on these things will stand up for those that pay them.
    FISH ON

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    Anchoring or mooring....Hmmm....what if I want to fish along the bank utilizing my trolling motor? Applying the power to it in an intermittent manner, such that I might actually come to a stop from time to time...without lowering the anchor, or the hull making contact with the bottom to achieve a state of "moor"...intermittent use of the trolling motor wherein all boat motion may cease, if and when the need arises as it invariably does when one decides to make multiple casts to a specific area or spot. My having done so willfully and with forethought. But not having done so with malice. Say...for the purposes of broadening the discussion of this thread...multiple casts to a spot containing A BRUSHPILE...placed inside the 200 foot zone by the owner of the said adjacent shore property...who because of this ruling now thinks is his and his alone, and feels that it is his sole right to fish it to the exclusion of all others, an idea to which he took mental ownership due to his having willfully misconstrued this ruling. Is that trolling? How many times is this scenario going to be played out, spawned by this ruling? I'd like to hear more from the bureaucrats that commented previously in this thread, and I'm pretty sure everybody else would too: who you gonna' back when this confrontation inevitably arises?
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