last week at Banks I was killing the smallies and 6 largies on 5" YUM dingers in smokey redflake rigged both texas and wacky style ,my pardner did better, including 2 walleye but using the Berkley Gulp minnow with both jighead and wacky, also the Timber Tiger # 13 worked great on walleyes and smallies. good luck I'm Jealous