mustfish,wish you had stop and chat awhile,you put that pile close to a small pile my grandson had put in and that is how we saw it,i knew it was new ,still had leaves on it and knew it had not been there long because he had search out that spot before putting it there this summer,your's was so big it brought the fish off his pile to your's,we caught most fish in peahill ,they should be on that pile all winter ,so good luck,if you see me again stop and chat,sorry about your trolling motor