Grayson welcome!! I dont no allot but do you buy your bait from a bait store/shop that is near to this body of water? I have allways found a place like this to be a great learnning tool. If there is one( dont no there is?)They might be willing to tell you were and how to catch'em on were they might be found(DEPTS..) And some times i run in to the problem were being in there store they just might simply not volunteer to give up none of there secret spots! Thats when i start looking at what they keep in stock and being in retail all my life look at whats bought out ( the empty pegs) Hope that may help ya the yankster