i remember rich z. it was in the mid 80"s that he wrote an article on his new jig spoon hybrid for fishing slop weeds. i called and ordered some. i ran to the store and when i got home my wife said he callled and i missed him.she said they had a short talk on weed fishing. his jig was fished with a reaper style plastic and was first jig for punching thru weeds. it was much better than the spoon and pork rind.