Ot is still around,he called me last summer and we talked a good while, we were suppose to fishing and something came up. I need to call him and get him back on the water. I meet rango at the 321 flea market years ago, he was there alot. I followed him all the way to Georgia one time to fish one of the clash get togethers. Meet Gabowman there.... and a few others down that way. We left 30 mins before Rango, headed home at 1 am in the morning, there was a bad wreck right behind us and rango got caught in the traffic and called us to see if we got caught in it and we made it threw ok. we got home about 4 am, he didn't get home till after day light. I fished right beside him at wateree many times.