Ofish the dates listed originally were all dark moons. But I'll take a vacation day to fish any time. Nov is basically the only time to meet most requirements for the deer hunters and keep some kind of since to the clash being a yearly event. I'm with what ever you can figure out to be the best option. I know two people who don't have boats or a ride just waiting to see when it's going to be so they can find a ride. I'll talk to you later when things settle at my house. Mil, wife's surgery and today the dog had surgery on her torn acl. Little heck tic around here. We're going to start calling ourselves the Limpy family.