I can catch them very early in the morning. it is possible. just have to have a heavy net.

When i do start live baiting in the spring, i routinely use a 12 ft heavy net. ill catch them deep, and sometimes ive caught them in less than 4ft of water.

here is a pic i dug up of a netfull of herring i got on LAKE WYLIE about 5 or so years ago.....I dont care what the biologist say, yes their are herring on wylie and i regularly catch them every spring.