Nope not in that group. I was out in open water with my Huckabee rod targeting single big fish. I was in about 15 fow, saw her out about 30 feet away at 13 feet deep. Eased my trolling motor her direction and seen her drop tight to the bottom. Dropped my bait on her and teased her back off the bottom and seen her come up and eat my bait, pretty cool!