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If the minnow is on a jig ... put the hook through the minnow from under the throat & out between the nostrils.
If the minnow is on a plain hook ... put the hook through the minnow "behind or in front of" the eyeballs, careful not to puncture the eyeballs.
You "can" use a dead or dying minnow as a jig dressing (sight/scent) ... run the hook into the mouth of the minnow, & bring it out around the "neck" area. Best to use a minnow that is not curled & stiff, as they will cause lighter jig heads to spin on retrieve.
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Ice fishing, through the back just behind the dorsal fin.
Open water crappie minnows- bottom lip through top lip
Open water walleye- in the mouth and out behind the head.
Open water chubs or BIG minnows, through the nostrils.
sorry i am having nothing but problem whit my photo bucket account so i started a new account at tiny pic.. only one i could find open and working all the time?? any ways see picks of rigs
trolling rig:
bobber fishing rig:
any ways that how i always fished them.. but it all depend on shot placement for aggression like for bobber fishing and also i bent the hook out 30* so that the hook catches the moth of the crappie by the way any questions???
in between the dorsal fin and the spine
The lip and the dorsal fin both hold well to cast. You just don't need to sling it with all your might. Use a steady fluid motion to get it out there and don't jerk it stopped or bye-bye minnow.
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Gonna add a question while trolling jigs a nite this last summer we tipped the jigs with small minnows hooked from the bottom of the mouth and out ahead of the eyes and a lot of the crappie were hooked in the bottom jaw . Was just wondering why the bottom jaw?
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You are mostly correct that fish "swallow their food head first" ... but, mostly when the food is large in size or is a hard finned species. Small or soft finned species may be swallowed however they end up in the mouth/throat ... position-wise. But that has little to do with how they actually "bite" ... because they don't actually "bite" the minnow, but in fact they "inhale" the minnow (and a lot of surrounding water) and force the excess water out through their gills. This inhaling motion overrides any "line biting" or "hitting the line first" aspects, as the force of the inhaling act is strong enough to pull the minnow/hook/line into their mouth, or even a jig/plastic or jig/minnow, without getting close to the main line to touch it before the bait enters their mouth.
Short strikes/shy bites are when the fish are not too sure about the edibility of your offering, and nip at it or use their lips to "test" the bait. Even then they aren't likely to "hit the line first", seeing as how the bait would be at the end of the line (and possibly below a sinker). It's just not in the mechanics of the strike, for that to happen.
That's one reason I prefer to use jigs, over minnows on a hook/sinker rig. When I get a hit on a jig, I set the hook and usually hook the fish in the roof of the mouth ... due to the fact that the hook on a jig is facing upwards. When using a hooked minnow under a sinker, the first bend or bounce of the rod tip is not always the time to set the hook. And when you are sure the fish has the bait in their mouth, you're not sure how far in it is or in what position the hook is laying. That sometimes results in fish hooked deep in their throat, or hooked only at the outer lip. You will lose a lot more fish, if the fish is hooked in the lip, because the thin membrane between the lip and head of the fish is easily torn (by the hooking process, or thrashing of the fish) and leaves a gaping hole for the hook to come out of (if they get any slack in the line).
I've even experienced hooking fish in the lip, with a weedless jig, and having the hook tear a large hole in the membrane, jump & thrash in the water and even on the floor of the boat ... and not have the hook (jig) thrown from the fish's mouth. Why ..... because the weedguard covers the gap between the hook point & body of the jig. A regular hook has to be stuck into something more substantial than just being around the lip & into the mouth membrane, or it's likely to come loose.
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I've had that happen, even when casting jigs, and the only thing (reason) I can come up with to explain it is .... the fish came from below the bait & rolled on the bait when striking it, then dived back towards the depth they came from. This action would place the hook point pointing more towards the bottom of the fish's mouth, than the roof of the mouth. Other than that, the only other reason I can think of is maybe the fish was positioning the bait in its mouth when the hookset came, and the hook just happened to be pointing down.
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Through the eyes.