Webbers Falls

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03-13-2009, 05:38 AM
crappie_jiggin

Webbers Falls

Guys if you have never fished Webbers Falls you might want to start. The crappie average around 12-15" there. This river lake doesn't get much fishing pressure and the fish are the proof of that. They are hitting in about 4-6' of water and you can catch a limit in about 4-6 hrs of fishing. This lake isn't that deep thus it warms up faster and it gets discharge water from the big OG&E plant at Muskogee which adds to the warming quicker. If you are interested in fishing there I would tell you to go to Spanard Creek they are already hitting good in there. Then you can move over to Greenleaf Creek and hit around the barge pylons and the railroad bridge. I would use a slip cork and a black/pink, pumpkin/chartreuse wooly beaver tail at the above mentioned depth. Guys this is a hint. I would beware of this lake for you need to run the channel markers out on the main part of the channel and beware of the open water back up in the creeks because water deepth may only be 4-6' deep with stumps just under the surface.
03-13-2009, 06:56 AM
Gamblinman

Fished the area many time in bass tournaments, and you definitely want to be cautious running outside the channel, but excellent fishing can be found here.
03-13-2009, 08:32 AM
ko4nrbs

Spainard Creek Access

How is the best way to get to the Spainard Creek ramp?
Bill
03-13-2009, 09:34 AM
lineman1969

Thanks for the report I was thinking about bringing my daughters down next week.Have you heard anything about Dirty Creek?
Thanks!
03-13-2009, 10:54 AM
STL Crappie Nightmare

I'm driving down to OK tonight to let my daughter stay with the in-laws for spring break and I plan on fishing this weekend. I was planning on fishing Eufaula but this place sounds interesting I checked it out on the map and marked the boat ramps with the GPS. With the cold front you all had move in down there do you think I would have more success at Webber's Falls or should I fish Eufaula? Your opinion will be greatly appreciated.
03-13-2009, 11:08 AM
crappie_jiggin

STL I would plan on maybe fishing Eufaula if you already know the lake. Webbers Falls can be tough to fish when they turn off. I have not been there since the cold spell we just had. I am sure they will pick back up next week when the weather warms. If you do decide to fish Spainard Creek put in at the ramp and head to the bridge to your east fish they pylons and then go under the bridge and fish the north bank were the lay downs are. You need to be patient the bite seems slow, but productive. Now you can go under the other bridge to the west of the ramp and hit those pylons to then if you happen to try and fish the standing timber to the west of there you are in for a big surpise. It looks like open water, but it is only about 3-4' deep and the timber is the same. If you can manage to stay in the creek channel and make it up the creek you will find some good fish in there. Hit all the laydowns on the outter edges. Go as far up the creek as you can with your boat. I run a 20'er and I go to the point I can't turn it around and have to back it out of the creek.

Good Luck.
03-13-2009, 11:17 AM
ko4nrbs

Spainard Creek Access

Answered my own question. Hwy 64 to Elm Grove Road.

Thanks for the heads up on the area. Haven't been there in years.

I'll try it Sunday for the heck of it. Should catch a few.

Bill
03-13-2009, 11:20 AM
crappie_jiggin

Quote:

Originally Posted by ko4nrbs

How is the best way to get to the Spainard Creek ramp?
Bill

The best way to the ramp is down 64 out of Muskogee. Turn onto Elm Grove Rd this is a paved road, but bumpy. Just stay on it and it will take around to the ramp. You will be crossing a bridge that you need to fish after you put in. Well actually you will cross two bridges I am talking about the second bridge. Now the ramp to use will be to your west when you cross over the bridge. You can see it when you cross the bridge.

The first bridge isn't that big so don't get confused here by my statement. You will know when you cross the right bridge. You will see another bridge to your right as you cross it. That is the Muskogee Turnpike.

I am telling you if you go out into the main river you better run the channel markers cause this place will eat up a boat and motor in a heart beat.

If you leave Spainard Creek and head for Greenleaf Creek go due east and before the river turns you will see Greenleaf Creek to your left. Water gets to about 7' after you leave the main channel just watch for any floating logs or submerged logs. Once you get in there hit the barge pylons to your right then go straight across and hit the laydowns on the west bank. Will have to hit the outsides of them get shallow from mid tree back. Make sure to hit the train bridge pylons to.
03-13-2009, 11:39 AM
ko4nrbs

Spainard Creek Fishing

I'll take my 16 foot aluminum vee bottom john boat this time. I use a 18hp motor on it. This will give me a chance to learn the water before I take the big boat.

Bill
03-13-2009, 11:44 AM
crappie_jiggin

Quote:

Originally Posted by ko4nrbs

I'll take my 16 foot aluminum vee bottom john boat this time. I use a 18hp motor on it. This will give me a chance to learn the water before I take the big boat.

Bill

Good luck fishing ko4nrbs. Leave a report on here for us after you hit it. I will make it back over tuesday to try it out again.

Heading out for Tenkiller to try it in the morning. It's been tough up there this winter for me. One last go of it, then I'm done with it if it doesn't produce.
03-13-2009, 11:48 AM
STL Crappie Nightmare

Quote:

Originally Posted by crappie_jiggin

STL I would plan on maybe fishing Eufaula if you already know the lake. Webbers Falls can be tough to fish when they turn off. I have not been there since the cold spell we just had. I am sure they will pick back up next week when the weather warms. If you do decide to fish Spainard Creek put in at the ramp and head to the bridge to your east fish they pylons and then go under the bridge and fish the north bank were the lay downs are. You need to be patient the bite seems slow, but productive. Now you can go under the other bridge to the west of the ramp and hit those pylons to then if you happen to try and fish the standing timber to the west of there you are in for a big surpise. It looks like open water, but it is only about 3-4' deep and the timber is the same. If you can manage to stay in the creek channel and make it up the creek you will find some good fish in there. Hit tall the laydowns on the out edges. Go as far up the creek as you can with your boat. I run a 20'er and I go to the point I can turn it around and have to back it out of the creek.

Good Luck.

Thanks for the tip Crappie_jigging, I may give it a try Saturday since there's going to be a NNE wind. I have another question for you (or two) :o did you fish these areas a float all day or did you do any dipping? I thougt about vertical jigging the area and possible spider rigging if I got tired of standing.
03-13-2009, 12:00 PM
crappie_jiggin

I just used a slip cork and jig. I was using a 10' pole and hitting on the outside parts of the laydowns. Well I was set the jig down in the brush. Now around the pylons I tried casting a jig and letting it fall to about a 4 count then slow rolled it in, but for some reason the slip cork and jig worked best there too. The bite was slow, but steady for me. Just set it in and wait atleast 2-3 minutes if no bite then just pick up an move it over to another hole in the tree or pylon. I was bouncing it oh so slightly just to give it a little movement. I am sure any jig will work the water will be stained so a little bit of a dark color will work.

I would really try up the creek for your best results. Spider rigging might work near the bridges. I have not tried that. I know the water up the creek isn't really deap enough for that. You will see mainly 5-7' water once there. Bridge area will be 12-18' water.

You will see guys fishing off the bridge too, watch them they will curse you a little. Cause of a little jealousy, because they don't have a boat and want it to themselves.
03-13-2009, 12:03 PM
ko4nrbs

River Charts

I'll let eveyone know how it goes.

River Charts for the area: Click on the link.
http://www.swt.usace.army.mil/naviga...03/S13FILL.pdf

http://www.swt.usace.army.mil/naviga...03/S12FILL.pdf

http://www.swt.usace.army.mil/naviga...03/S14FILL.pdf

Here is the complete list of them:
Arkansas River Navigation Charts -- Tulsa, OK to the Mississippi River

Bill
03-13-2009, 07:11 PM
Perchjerker101

Hey Crappie_Jiggin,

How far a run is it to good fishing from the Spaniard Creek ramp, is it close enough I can make it there and back in my mini-boat? I run two trolling motors with separate batteries, both big deep-cycles. I have put in at Hwy 10 landing before and fished the bridges there and the one outside Greenleaf park before, though it's been a long time, and did well. Also, how bad does a north or south wind affect the creek?
03-15-2009, 04:21 PM
crappie_jiggin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perchjerker101

Hey Crappie_Jiggin,

How far a run is it to good fishing from the Spaniard Creek ramp, is it close enough I can make it there and back in my mini-boat? I run two trolling motors with separate batteries, both big deep-cycles. I have put in at Hwy 10 landing before and fished the bridges there and the one outside Greenleaf park before, though it's been a long time, and did well. Also, how bad does a north or south wind affect the creek?

Perchjerker this would be a good place for you to put your mini boat in. Go to the bridge and that will put you in the creek itself. Take hwy 64 south of Muskogee to E. 123rd St and turn left then you will turn left on N4330 county rd. This will take you straight to the bridge. The ramp would be to far for you to go up the creek. Sorry it took me so long to get this to you. I went fishing yesterday morning and then ran into some problems, just now getting back to the website. Just click on image it will open up so you can see it better.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2522/...rdcreek.th.jpg
03-16-2009, 07:14 PM
Perchjerker101

Quote:

Originally Posted by crappie_jiggin

Perchjerker this would be a good place for you to put your mini boat in. Go to the bridge and that will put you in the creek itself. Take hwy 64 south of Muskogee to E. 123rd St and turn left then you will turn left on N4330 county rd. This will take you straight to the bridge. The ramp would be to far for you to go up the creek. Sorry it took me so long to get this to you. I went fishing yesterday morning and then ran into some problems, just now getting back to the website. Just click on image it will open up so you can see it better.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2522/...rdcreek.th.jpg

Thanks for the reply Crappie_jiggin. I stopped by there Saturday after leaving the Eufaula get together and it looks pretty good. I went into both areas and the upper one between the two bridges looks perfect. I saw a pontoon anchored off a secondary point in the main campground area that was fishing a brushpile. He caught a couple and another gentleman was fishing the same brushpile from the bank and from visiting with him a little, it sounds like an area I definitely want to check out further. Will let you know how it goes.