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Am new to tying and have been tying marobou tail crappie jigs in 1/16 and 1/32 oz. Have not tied with any kip tail. Which material do you prefer? Why? I mainly do long line trolling for crappie in my area. Would one material be better for trolling or equal? Need some opinions. Thanks!
i use both.... to me it's all in your preference of tying material... but I always confer with the crappie first.... they're the ones I'm trying to catch! :D
In the same weight jig, any difference in depth run if trolling or do both run about the same depth. Does the marabou have more action in water being not as stiff as kip?
as for the action in the water what I can do is make a short video showing the two different materials in the water and post up a link to it here.
as for the depth runs.... I don't really know but it would definitely be something worth pursuing... maybe tie a couple in both and then set out some line on the side of your boat and see which one is running deeper.... then if you need it to go even deeper then that's where i'd tie on an egg sinker about 3 foot up from the jig to get it to the depth I need them to be in....
Nothing has the action of marabou, nuff said I think. My fav for trolling.
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Just started using kip/ calf tail about a year ago, and have caught many crappie and gills on my jigs, 1/80 and 1/64. I know marabou has more action, but i think action can be over rated at times, and personaly like kip tail over marabou when the water is still cool, an even did good last summer on the kip tail jigs to. So like i said, action is over rated, but buy a couple of tails and decide for your self.
I think kiptail holds up better if that matters to you at all.
they are totally different, and both have their merits. marabou lets the jig sink faster than kiptail I think, but the durability of it is pretty fragile, tho very effective. you need both in your arsenal. marabou works good with a chenille body jig and the kiptail works good by itself. so two kinds of jigs with different looks. marabou is pretty cheap and comes in some vibrant colors. I saw some in a peach color at bps the other day and had to have it.
I like the look and life like action of marabou. Kip is more durable but marabou will catch you more fish.
i hate to come off as a @$$hole but "Marabou will catch you more fish" .... i have to say in your case this is prob. true because thats what you use mostly....marabou is the most common jig on the market and kiptail jigs are pretty much sold everywhere also...one isnt going to catch more fish then the other....on same days it might but thats just some days...action is over rated somtimes then other times you need as much action as you can get...dont let somone tell you that one is going to catch more fish then the other because they are full of $h!t....you need a lil bit of everything in your tackle box...Marabou,Kiptail,bucktail,fox,silcone skirt....every fish is diff and i have had days where they wouldnt bite any jig but caught them on a ice blade jigs i made but had to hold it very still, any movement and they wouldnt hit it....so nuff with as the BS...keep alil bit of everything on hand because you never know what the fish will want from day to day...
Nothing beats good Marabou
Well you can see there are fans of both hair and feathers in here. Some have confidence in one or the other. Personally I don't think hair can out fish feathers. That is why people like Zell Rowland the old bass pro changes what comes on the Pop R's (looks like hair, but is probably fake hair) to feathers. Feathers will move when sitting still just from water movement when hair will not.
Some thing action is over rated, I don't, but that is just someone opinion and that is all. It will depend on who is telling you what they like. I like the fact when I hold my jig still it still has some little movement from the feather.
So do what you will and choose what you like. I know a guide that pretty much only uses craft hair or sometimes feathers. Craft hair moves much better than kip tails. Kip tails is more stiff and short so it has both properties than limit movement. There are going to be times the crappie want it still and not moving, but I think that is not very often.
I have been fishing marabou tails for over 35 years and love in in the spring when I troll most. I do use hackle some then too, but when summer comes I use more hackle. I have a lot of hair and hair jigs, but they just don't end up tied on my line much, almost never.
Some people like short tail and kip tail lend them selves to that as well as little jigs. However many fishermen like a big jig for big fish and Kip tails will never make a big jig like marabou will. Don't think anyone will ever convince me that kip tails are better. I would use Kip tails on bream jigs or any small jigs I want to tie, but I also tie hackle or marabou for that too.
Example: Take Mr. Crappie him self, his jigs use hackle and I would think there is a reason for that. Also Ernest Paty that post some on crappie.com and has DVD's he sells. He is a fishing instructor and uses hackle tails.
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For vertical jigging, I prefer the kip tail. Reason being is when I verical jig, there is very little forward movement of the jig. Without forward movement the maraboo has a tendency to poof out like a ball of fluff. The kip tail keeps a more stream lined profile.
When casting jigs, maraboo, hands down. You cannot beat the action.
I agree and is why I use hackle when working a brush pile. I also troll hackle, but like marabou better for that. I guess that is why marabou starts my year off and is my main thing until summer pattern happens and then I use hackle about 100% of the time.Quote:
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Going to try more kip tails this year and not just because of this thread, but more some of the colors I just got (especially the light blue) make me want to try them more. However that will be June most likely. I do feel positive about what I expect from the kip tail then. I mean I have a lot of good colors, but just a couple weeks ago I got some that I like a lot.
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I also like chicken hackle too. I buy the strung neck hackle at bps or gander mt. also the mallard flank feathers on 1/80 size jigs on a fly hook. It would get boring if we didn't have all these different things to use.