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I need to get a separate battery for my Livescope/fish finder. 99% of my trips are 4hours or less. I can get a Dakota 12 10ah battery with charger for $100. It's my understanding that I should be able to get 6hrs out of this battery running my Livescope setup. Can anyone confirm this. The next size lithium batteryis twice the price without the charger. I will more than happy to get 4hrs out of a single charge.
Where'd you get the "understanding" that a 10ah battery would give you 6hrs runtime with a Livescope setup ??
I got a 50ah Lithium and only got 6hrs runtime, but I think it was only 75-80% charged when I used it. I got a 50ah because I've read that a Garmin 93sv & LS can pull close to 5a/hr ... and I don't usually fish more than 10hrs straight on any trip. I believe I should get a good 8hrs continuous running with the battery fully charged. Now .... I've only used it one time, and like I said I don't think it was fully charged when I did use it .... and I haven't had the opportunity to use it a second time, when I know it's fully charged, to see what length of time it will last before shutting off.
The battery is a ECO-Worthy 50ah and I got it and the charger for around $250 ... and I just looked & could get the same two items for $200 right now. (shipping is free in USA) And NO ... I'm not promoting the battery or company ... I just bought it to try it out and to save on weight, since I have to carry batteries to & from my boat & carry them up/down stairs, due to living in an apt complex.
After a bit research I found this information. A 93SV and Livescope box pulls 2.8 amps on average. Amps plus hour time gives 2.8x4 hours = 11.2 so a 10ah battery would not be enough. I'm gonna have to move up to a larger battery. I will likely get a 50ah which should cover me if I add another 93SV for the rear of the boat.
Here is where I am going, two 106 on bow, bird 998, black box, 126 and a 1197 bird at helm:
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less than 250, 100ah, and use a multi plug so all on board charger
Pappy, you should be doing a lot better than 6 hours with your set up if your battery is fully charged. A friend of mine has the same livescope set-up as you but he's running an Eco-Worthy 20Ah battery and he's getting more than 6 hours out of his. In a normal days fishing, he's only run out of battery one time in the past year of use with his set-up. He advised me to go with a 30Ah battery when I bought my set up. I'm still using a standard lead acid battery for now but this spring I plan on getting the 50Ah battery because I may add a 2nd Garmin unit to my set up in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
I recently replaced my group 31 lead acid starting/electronics battery with an Impulse 105ah All Purpose lithium battery. I fished a little over six hours Friday running two Lowrance Gen 2 HDS 12's, two HDS Pro 12's, AT 2, two NMEA networks and my turret for the AT 2. The battery still had 70% charge when I put the boat away. BTW, the electronics I mentioned only draw 8.1 amps, all on.
One thing I forgot to add is I added this battery for my trolling motor (MK Terrova 12V), battery is a Lossigy 12V 100AH.
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and I'm charging it on one of my banks with my Minn Kota 315D charger. My other 2 banks are still charging lead acid deep cycle batteries.
I was a bit apprehensive if this would work but it's been hooked up for a few months and no problems so far.
I will add the Eco-Worthy 50AH battery later this spring for my Livescope and I will add it to the 2nd bank of this charger.
For a starting battery, I will stay with a lead acid battery un less I can figure out a better option before I replace it later this spring also.
Going to lithium batteries for me is all about weight reduction. I'm 72 and it's getting harder and harder for me to move those heavy lead acid batteries around.
I've got a hernia now that I need to get repaired soon. The only thing heavy object I've moved in months was that trolling motor battery when I replaced it with the lithium.
Yeah, I think I should get a lot more time than that with the battery fully charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiemax
When I got it I hooked it up to the charger and the guage was solid up to the 75% mark & blinking on and off in the 75-100% mark. Not being familiar with the charger, I thought it was telling me it was charged and in maintenence mode :bash ... but after putting it back on the charger that night & leaving it, realized the guage would be solid all the way up & not blinking when fully charged and maintenence mode is shown by the input voltage being down to like 0.XX volts & output at 14.XX volts.
My Minn-Kota onboard will tell me my lead acid battery is "charged" .... then I put the ECO-Worthy charger on it and it tells me it's not quite fully charged. Being as the E-W charger is a "smart" charger and the MK is not digital, I'm leaning towards believing the E-W charger over the Minn-Kota.
I'm just an old Gewber that learns more from my mistakes than from reading the instructions ... :Rofl
So a 100 ah should run a a garmin 126 with livescope with no prob. ????
Yes 100ah will run it a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolina pirate
I have a 125ah that is running a 126 and two 106's along with 2 livescopes. I've fished it over 10 hours and still had better than 20% left on the battery.
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I'm just an old Gewber that learns more from my mistakes than from reading the instructions ... :Rofl[/QUOTE]
Hey Pappy, WHAT ARE INSTRUCTIONS?? :Rofl
well when ordered found the $40 per battery shipping, so lithium for TM and supplement electronics then group 31 AGM for starter etc. Lucky me all my 2019 batteries had died.Quote:
Originally Posted by grizwilson
I'm running a Garmin 106 with a lvs 32 LiveScore and a 12" Helix off of a 60 ah BPS battery and it will run them all day long with plenty left.
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Thanks That really helped me make up my mind !Quote:
Originally Posted by zekepa
What brand batteries are you guys using to get this kind of service?
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I'm running a 125ah Ionic. It's wasn't cheap, but I don't run out of power.
I really need to purchase one but am having a tough time swallowing the price. Running a Dual purpose group 31 with the electronics i run isn`t cutting it any more. i keep hoping more manufacturers develop these dual purpose LifPO4`s to get the price down a bit. I just do not have the room for another battery as a house battery.Quote:
Originally Posted by zekepa
Found my post from when I first got the battery. Dedicated Electronics battery Lithium (crappie.com)
Summary of the post. I figure I'm drawing an average of 8ah with the electronics I'm running.
2 106's and one 126 graph. Brightness is set at 100,
2 each LVS 32 Live scope systems.
At 8ah the battery can go longer than I'm going to fish.
I was in the same boat, my group 31 ran all my electronics, started the outboard, ran pumps and lights. After fishing 4 to 4 1/2 hours the voltage would be down to 11.4v. On one outing I fished about 6 hours and the outboard cranked slow and my depth finders shut off when I hit the key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bricks
The Impulse battery and NOCO charger weren't cheap, but in the long run (for me) it was the best move. Now when I fish for 6 hours I still have 70% charge and the beauty of Lithium is that there is very little voltage drop as it discharges.
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Originally Posted by justinp61
It has happened a few times when I have run out of juice to start the big motor, being I fish Walleyes too I have a kicker started the kicker only took about 15 minutes and had enough juice to start the big motor. This is terribly hard on my dual purpose Group 31 battery they only last me about 2 years, I get them from Menards they are built by Exide on sale I can pick them up for $119. Still hard to justify the cost of LifePO4 considering the price I can buy the LA batteries. My trolling motor batteries are getting weak much easier to pick up cheaper LifePO4 to replace them which i will do.
Redodo Power 100ah powers mine. Use "Justin5" for a discount at checkout!
Just ordered two DrPrepare 100mah for $209 each delivered these are the new ones they redid them with better BMS and low temp charging protection and ten year supposedly warranty. At this price for my trolling motor cannot hardly go wrong. I was considering a change to LifePO4`s. I had picked up a NOCO Genius 3X10 charger in preparation at a cheap price. Going to be hard to give up my 23 year old Dual Pro 3X10 it has never gave me a lick of trouble it just worked.
I run my LS and 1222 with an Amped 48AH and can fish all day (6-7 hrs.) without getting below 14 amps. Starts off with 16.3 fully charged!Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolina pirate
Not cheap but I like the extra insurance of having too much power instead of not enough.
Just to do a follow up. I ordered the Amped outdoors 20ah lithium battery with charger to run my livescope unit. I will cover the 4 or 5 hours in fishing time I need. I ordered directly from their website due to free shipping and no sales tax. They offered the best price I could find and they have great reviews.