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I did a little research and saw where Australia released a Carp specific herpes virus to battle invasive carp species. As the virus is fatal in carp, it would cause massive die offs. Does anyone know if this was successful?
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Maybe that's the answer to the Asian Carp plague. Give em an STD.
I'm not sure I would like the idea of releasing a virus into the waters. Regardless of whether or not they think is was safe for humans things can mutate and got horribly wrong. My children swim in those waters, I would prefer they don't release a disease into it. Just too much to risk, and I don't trust them enough to be 100% certain it will never affect humans or other wildlife at some point.
I would prefer if they go the science route that they come up with the sterilization approach.
I had a Biologist in Frankfort tell me the virus would kill the AC. But the only way humans could get it is by eating the AC. They thought about introducing the virus to kill the AC. But was afraid if somebody at a AC and caught it. F@W would get sued.
My concerns are similar to yours. Transferable to humans? Transferable to other fish species? Always a potential for mutation as this is common in virus. Difficult to predict the long term outcomes for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slow Retrieve
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In reading I found this report on controlling Asian Carp. Interesting read. And action plan created in 2017.
http://www.asiancarp.us/documents/2017ActionPlan.pdf
Purdue University has been trying to come up with a way to control Asian Carp. They published a report that electric barriers worked but would kill everything in the water including shocking humans. They have been studying parasites and viruses that can effect Asian Carp, and find Asian Carp don’t have many if any parasites that affect their mortality as well as viruses except that herpes virus and are working in a variant of it but with no success for specifically targeting Asian Carp only. Not a lot of options out there as of yet but a lot of plans in the works on above read and various ways being used. But a lot of organizations concerned and working on the Asian Carp problem. U of Ill. Is working hard on solutions also.
That's great to know funding is going to a search for solutions! Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by cevans
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They need to test this ASAP! I'm pretty sure we all could sign off on never eating an asian carp. The only losers are the commercial fishermen and the processing plants, it would be cheaper to buy their assets than suffer the economic losses these nasty invaders are perpetrating in our waters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pan Fish
Scary!!
Sad, but it's pretty much certain that the KY/Barkley lake system will be no more than a AC Lake system for a few years. I wish the Crappie/LM Bass/Catfish would develop an appetite for AC fry. Seems the Shad are way down or about gone. Looks like we will have two lakes full of food with the AC, unless we find a way to kill them off. Just got to get a system set up to fairly pay the commercial fisherman and the processing centers to take out the tons of AC in the lake now unless we can kill all of them. They will be there from now on. I hope to see a shocking report showing ALL fish per Acre of water. I'm just guessing, and I'm sure several will not agree, but I think the AC are 75-90% of the fish per weight per Acre in the Lakes.
Seems to me that everything I have read about anything being done is that the DNR’s are all trying to first control the movement and spread of the Carp and they are all leaning towards the installation of bubble barriers with or without a sound barrier along side the bubble barrier. Couple of states are working on re introduction of alligator gar and all gar species as they eat the young carp but cannot help with reduction after Carp reach a large size. Gar takes 4-5 yrs before they even reproduce and only every couple of years and are expensive to raise. Most all DNRs don’t have the funds to back nor is most states totally backing the netting of Carp as no true way to get rid of them without incurring and additional expense even if the land fills are the option to get rid of them after netting. I also find all science study’s so far are still at a dead end with no logical answer to eradicate or control them. Also, any studies that are being conducted, eats up and takes a lot of time as well as money a lot of DNRs also don’t have. So, it’s a heck of a slow process to get anything done or even accomplished as well as all DNRs if they are going to do anything, needs more money. But time is really the downside of all action. Here in Indiana, I feel like our DNR is only concentrating on the Great Lakes issue and have thrown up their hands and give up on our rivers and the only thing I read about them being concerned with is the Great Lakes.
I personally feel like the answer will have to come from a corporation or business that can profit from either the utilization or the eradication of the AC. Money talks, and the DNR's don't have that kind of money.
Or it's going to take the masses, all of us working together in some form or fashion.
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Ive pulled cranks in bays on Ky lake 6 times in the last 2 weeks, The silvers are going crazy behind the boat every time. Wasnt nearly this bad last year. These things are huge too!
Northforke, Man, if you were pulling cranks with the trolling motor and had all of these carp, then this will pretty much end the 'Cranking for Crappies' pattern if the carp are this thick. Sad. So let us know if you were using your OB(which may have caused them to jump) or using your trolling motor when you were pulling the cranks when the carp were going crazy. Not good if all you can do now is watch carp jumping out of the water whether you are fishing or have hired a guide trying to catch Crappie when running Crank Baits. Doesn't sound good for the Guides.
Perch,Quote:
Originally Posted by perchjerker108
The silvers have been jumping behind the cranks for a few summers now. This year thus far, regardless of bay, I average at least 3 seperate incidents to have a single or multiple silvers jump behind the cranks on every trip.
I am assuming they are jumping due to the vibrations of the cranks, or the lines spooking them. I am not sure which but it is happening, and happening with more frequency.
And the size will vary, but have seen some that could top out around 60lbs jumping back there.
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Using trolling motor. Im thinking about digging up my muskie cranks and driving them thing nuts! Maybe shhot them like clay pigeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by perchjerker108
That's discouraging. I haven't been down in about 3 years to Ky Lake. I would like to try the AC on the dinner table though. May have to make it down soon to experience it first hand and possibly harvest a few
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Sorry,Typing on the phone on an airplane, poor spelling and truncated thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northforker
I wonder if it is legal to shoot these things with a shotgun when they jump? I know I wouldn't do it if there was anyone nearby, or on a weekend, but during the week sometimes, I've got some bays all to myself. If I drag 4 great big muskie plugs behind the boat, these things should be poppin' like popcorn.
#7-1/2 shot should put em down inside 20 yards?
If I'm nuts, drag me back from the edge of the cliff, otherwise, I may lock and load!
short answer NO don't do it !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Northforker
Correct !! And it's illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by wannabe fisherman