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Opinions and thoughts about 2 and 3 piece rods their pros, cons, characteristics and behaviors as well as their different uses.
True that MOST 12s are 2 piece, MOST 14s + are 3 pieces. There is much work into design , materials, development and testing of these modern marvels that provide us with dinner.
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I use BnM 14 ft 3 piece rods for rigging and they work good.I pretty much never take them apart and they stay rigged up on my boat.
I can only tell you about BnM PST and BnM Capps/Coleman 14' 3pc rods, as that's all I have/use.
The bend from a 1/2oz weight is barely discernible between the two, but go up in weight and the C/C rods will bend much farther. You can also notice more "bounce" and recovery time from a C/C rod, when the boat is rocking from waves. They both have worked well for pushing jigs/cranks, which is what I mostly do, but I was told by my Spider Rigging mentor that the C/C rods would show light bites better when Spider Rigging, because of their lighter action tips.
I recently pushed jigs with 1.5oz weights ... running them 20ft deep @ ~1mph. The PST rod bent a mere couple of inches, while the Capps/Coleman rods bent down over 8 inches. (just to give you an idea of the softness of the C/C tips vs the PST's tip)
Only 2pc rods I have are 10' or shorter. They are the rods I started with for Spider Rigging, but I was always in someone else's boat and fishing out of the back, so I don't have enough experience with them to judge them against each other. Their only cons, that affect me, is their length isn't sufficient to fish them straight out the front ... which is why I went to the 14' rods. I can, and do, use them on occasion along with the 14' rods ... but only as the far right/left rod in the spread, due to their length not being sufficient to put the line out of the way of the trolling motor when moving faster than 0.4mph (which is the high end of Spider Rigging speed, but below the low end of Pushing speed).
I think the cost of shipping is what drives the longer rods to be 3 peice. 6' long packages must be the cost breakline.
You are correctQuote:
Originally Posted by KMack
Of equal material which generally has more
1 back bone
2 feel for sensitive bites
3 Load
Between 2 and 3 piece
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As a general rule, I think fewer pieces are better. However, as you note above, most rods over 14' will be 3-piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
If you need a 14-footer in your trolling spread, you'll most likely end up with a 3-piece rod.
Lots of guys on here catch a bunch of fish with 3-piece rods.
Thank you. Just starting out spider rigging. I was thinking 12 footers would be easy to handle and less stressful. Leaning heavy words jenko spider troll Possibly also using them with crankbaits too
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I think you're right. I would just read through a bunch of spider rigging threads to see what everybody's "spread" is.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
I try to always do my homework. And later if I go to 14 or 16. I still have my original toys of 12 footers. It's about fun and fish in the boat. Thank you for your time. Always hunger for knowledge. So any other info iam listening
Chippo
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Most folks seem to be using 14 or 16 but it is not their first rodeo
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You're right ... and just like I mentioned in my previous post, I started with 10'ers and quickly realized that they were too short to fish straight ahead. That's why I went to 14' rods. They're not all that awkward to use, and you get used to them pretty quickly. Using baitcast reels with thumb bars is a plus when it comes to landing fish ... as is a long handled net. And a rubber coated net is a plus when netting a fish caught on a crankbait. But, if you're going to be doing much trolling with cranks & jigs, you might want to consider getting line counter reels for your rods. They'll work fine for Spider Rigging, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
And don't worry about the 14' rods being able to handle big fish :
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Now you got me thinking
Got to do Somme measurements too. My boat is 16'8"
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Yeah, measuring before buying any particular length rod would be prudent, and just as necessary as measuring before mounting the bases for your rod holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
Here's my 16' ProCraft :
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And here's how I ended up mounting my two front rod holders :
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And while the red taped spinning outfit on the left is only a 10' rod, and the cork handled rod on the right is only a 6'6" rod ... the picture was taken when I was pushing cranks & jigs (1.5oz weights @ 1.25mph). The other two rods in the picture are the 14' rods, and the shorter rods were placed for maximum separation between lines. If I were "spider rigging" ... the weight would be less, the speed would be less, and the long rods would be pointing forward.
I put the seat on the pedestal & sat in it while I figured out where I would place the bases on the floor of the boat. Being able to raise/lower the trolling motor, without having to totally remove the left holder, was taken into consideration. How far I had to bend forward to grab the rod handles, while still remaining seated, also came into play. The depth finder's position also had to be considered, so as to not obstruct the field of view while the holders were in place. I also had to consider the fact that I normally use a offset seat post, not only for my comfort, but also to be able to swing to the opposite side of the boat in order to level the boat ... due to the weight of the rear angler and the placement of the rod holders in that area. (as seen in this picture)
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(Note: the straight pedestal in the previous picture was being used so as to allow a more stable umbrella mount. I am in the process of getting a different mounting system to use with the offset pole)
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Probably mount mine in metal trey beyond front deck the tray is above bow storage area. Also I will have to remove port side rod holder from base to aces trolling motor up and down from bracket. But the seat is close to both set of rod holders. Gonna make it work. So 14 will give me the reach I need
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That may be your best bet. Consider measuring the distance from the back of the holder on the T-bar to the front edge of the trolling motor head, and then deduct that distance from a 12' rod length. That will give you the length of rod out in front of your trolling motor. You might be surprised at how short that 12' rod really is :Doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
A couple of things I may have failed to mention : I only have 3 rods that are 14' long - I only have two sets of rod holders (w/4 bases) - I only use both rod holders up front when fishing solo & pushing jigs/cranks ... I don't have more than 4 rods out at any one time (that's plenty for me to deal with :kewl )
Chippo...Gene Johnson ( E-Z Poleholder ) on MS board..... makes a sliding base mount for the spider lok rod holders......loosen a knob and slide them over to deploy or stow trolling motor....then slide back in position and tighten knob.
Wow. That might be the ticket
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( E-Z Poleholder ) on MS board..... makes a sliding base mount for the spider lok rod holders......loosen a knob and slide them over to deploy or stow trolling motor....then slide back in position and tighten knob.
I looked on website ez poleholder, did not see one tried to search on internet, no luck would you please try to get in touch with someone and have them contact me. That product would eliminate many headaches
His user name here on c.c is E-Z Poleholder.....you can send him a PM......or you can call him at 1 601 750 3519 . He is the man that invented and designed the SpyderLoks for Millineum Marine. Give him a call. His name is Gene Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippo
He is the man that invented the SpyderLoks for Millineum Marine. Give him a call. His name is Gene Johnson.
Thank you He made an awesome product
Went with jenko 14s spider troll. Set of 8
ALL IN
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