Using the stock transducer. Comparing the medium chirp and high chirp... https://youtu.be/xztUt8fvsUg
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Using the stock transducer. Comparing the medium chirp and high chirp... https://youtu.be/xztUt8fvsUg
Kosmo,
Thank you so much for taking the time to do/post this. Onix medium & high chirping appears to create very clean & detailed images. Having used it, do you know if the Fish ID capability functions in chirping mode? A lot of people don't use Fish ID, but I have found it to be useful to "Size" fish when using a 2D/DI split screen.
I really don't no . I never use Fish ID, but now you've got me curious about it. Before the chirping, a fish should show up as a different color, if it were outside the 2d 20° coverage area. But that was a fixed 20°/60°,cone angle. While chirping, I don't no what cone angle, verse frequency would be? I would think, medium chirp would be 60° while high chirp 20°.I'll check tomorrow(I agree much less clutter, while chirping and something, I don't understand is, even when a fixed frequency is chosen. There still seems to be less clutter than before, I think.)Quote:
Originally Posted by nwifishnut
Kosmo
I use Fish ID to attempt to separate bait fish from larger fish. The different colors for the different cone angles won't work on my Onix. I only get one color irrespective of frequency, but I do get the fish symbol...presumably for the larger fish. As I understand it, the fish symbol is assigned based upon the echo given off by the fish's air bladder. Only bladders of a larger fish get the fish symbol. Not sure how all of this echo interpretation will work, or if it will work at all, when there are multiple frequencies, cone angles etc. in play. I would love to be putting this upgrade thru the paces, but my boat is 750 miles away and the lake there is frozen. It's killing me. Thanks again for you efforts!
Tryed the fish I'd today. Sorry, but it appears to be broken. No fishes on 200khz and there are fishes on 83khz,but some of them were showing lower the the bottom. Some good news though, I was able to verify some of the fish arches.... :crazy:http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdxhbhnka.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by nwifishnut
DANG! Thats a goodern!!!
I think you are going to have to do a little surgery on that measuring tool to fit that one in there.
Update on fish ID.... I think I was wrong, what posted. I think the 83khz does show the fish symbols correctly. The 200khz was the one that was showing some fish symbols below the bottom. Doesn't really matter, it's still broken anyhow...
Glad you got to verify the fish!!
What very little I got to experiment with the ONIX CHIRP this past weekend ...
I could not get any configuration of CHIRP to show brush ...
The CHIRP did seem to show fish very well ...
I have a lot of experimenting to do ...
Rickie
I haven't had that issue.one of the things I don't understand is, when different frequencies are chosen, are the cone angles changing? Here's a picture of 1/16 JIG in structure and a crappie biting it.... http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psxvggtpv4.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I haven't found any information on cone angles yet in the HB CHIRP ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Rickie
Kosmo,Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Thanks
That's what I was afraid of. You would think that after almost 2 years that they might have gotten around to fixing it.
Seams like the fixed frequencies are working best for me. Particularly, the medium frequencies. http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psjlvt0cby.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Kosmo,
That is one great 2D image! It appears that it is showing fish tthat don't appear in the DI. My experience has usually been the opposite with DI being more detailed. Did you experiment with other fixed frequencies & determine that 95 was the best? And any thoughts why higher frequencies were not as good?
The DI view is zoomed, so that makes it a little hard to compare. 95khz seems best for me. The high frequency works to tho. So far, it seems that I don't need the chirp turned on in the Dept water I'm fishing. http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psfqueswbp.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps8ntvuv1d.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by nwifishnut
Kosmo .... a couple of people have said they don't think their SI is a crisp as it was before the update .... have you noticed anything like that?
I don't no. The only si that I've done, was what your seeing in those pictures. I've got my transducer mounted on the xi5. The xi5 wobbles really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
Thanks
Bob, I checked the si/di today. Your right, it doesn't look right while chirping. I think it gets compressed, somehow. When I turn chirp off, it seems to return to normal tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
Hmmm ..... That makes sense. I imagine the 2D is using a LOT more processing power....and maybe the ping sequence changed to give the 2D more priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Don't get me wrong. It still works great. The only time I'm seeing this is real shallow water. The chirp probably shouldn't be on anyhow, in this shallow of water. Here's a video that I did out in deeper water. I'm running the outboard and using the xi5 to steer. The transducer is mounted on the trolling motor.https://youtu.be/_WpZdK1JegcQuote:
Originally Posted by BobB
Here's pictures of chirp and fixed frequencies, in shallow water, with the si/di. http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psudzcmyit.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...pstcgrxrce.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps8j4kjplr.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psbrkq46ki.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psxhk3txnj.jpg
Here's two, running high chirp. Seems to me, as long as I'm in 20ft.+ water the chirping doesn't affect the si/di. http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psx6mtupfg.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psx6mtupfg.jpghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps7gwqphs8.jpg