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That is just crankbait, no weight?
Needs to be charted with 10# dia line
Only a couple inches difference Mike
I know G , been doing testing of my own, not enough difference to matter tween 350s and 300s realy
Yes, that is just the crankbait. No wieghtQuote:
Originally Posted by "D"
Is that from where the line touches the water or actual reel reading.?
So, what "G" is telling you is correct, that there's not enough difference to matter in the two charts.
As far as the line diameter goes, there are so many variations in line size that a man could spend a day trying to chart the difference in Stren (.012 Dia.) vs. Nano Fill (.007 dia.)
I used a cheapo braid that is .009 diameter. thats just bigger (.002) than Berkley NanoFil and slightly smaller (.002)than TrileneXl (.011)or Stren(.012). I figured that there is no stretch to braid, where as if you let out 95 feet of mono, there will be some stretch to it, reducing the line diameter, right? So now, were into which brand of line stretches more than others!
Also, Arkie doesn't have a scuba diver on staff. LOL. I trolled back and forth at different depths across a flooded gravel flat known locally as "Butt Beach" Stayed on track as best i could, let out line until i hit bottom at a depth, recorded it. I know, that ain't too scientific.... its fishing... we ain't curing Cancer or putting man on the moon.
Mike, from the looks of those stringers your catching, you've got them dialed in pretty dang good man! Good Job!
Thanks for all the interest guys.
Mitch
Great question! That IS from the point of contact with the water. Rod was out near level, creating roughly a 20 degree angle to the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilbur
Thanks Mitch, love yalls baits.
All pulling depth charts are from where line hits the water.......could not make them any other way.......everybodys rod tips are at different heights off of the water somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilbur
Just had to ask.
It was a good question wilbur
Very nice chart G - thank you. Scott's chart that he sent with his weights, is that close with the Arkie baits?
Scotts chart is for pushing crankbaits useing weights....his chart will work with any crankbait that you want to push even Rattletraps because you are controlling depth with the weight.. look at his chart closely.....the key is the 45 degree line angle. Pulling crankbaits is a different story....everything comes into play...lure weight, bill size, bill angle, speed, and length of line out from entry point into water, line size and type somewhat etc......all these things control the depth. I tested these for six months pulling on long flats on different lakes, that were different depths, spent a lot of hours and made lots of notes and Mitch and Scott did too. Thus we came up with a depth chart for pulling the Arkie 350 series crankbait.
thanks g,looks real close to the bandit chart sometimes its alittle under what the chart says and others its over,lol:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl
I just use the Bandit chart, just trying to get close and then its just relative and duplicatable. Funny how a lot of folks try to over think it, have line counter reels less than half full and think they are running 120 feet out when in reality they may not even have 80 out, but it really doesnt matter if you are catching fish at what your reels say is 120 foot back then set em all that way and rock!!!!
Comparing the Arkie 350 with a bandit 300 If you use a 300 depth chart at feet of line out the Arkie will be almost a foot higher than the bandit....which means to run the same depth as a bandit 300 then the Arkie needs 5% more line out. You dont have to figure that close....depth is figured from length of line out from where it enters the water when your pulling.........if your trying to pull12 ft. deep and the chart says 54 ft. of line then you have to let your line out until reel says 54 ft. then you have to take a look at the distance from your rod tip untill where the line hits or enters the water behind the boat.....for example if its 12 ft......then you have to let out 12 more ft. of line. this will just get you close unless your really good at judging distance by eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueball
Unless using planer boards!Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Yep.....thats a different gameQuote:
Originally Posted by ducker
Regarding trolling cranks with braided line. I'm just getting started pulling cranks and spooled up some ten mono and ten braid. I think I like the braid better so, are any of you pulling cranks with say 20 lb braid. Looking at the chart I can live with those numbers. My problem is the catfish are busting my ten lb mono so I thought about spooling some twenty braid and trying it. One last question about the braid, are you tying direct to crank if you are using high viz braid or using some mono leader between braid and crank. I have used some 350 Arkies and really liked them especially their colors.
I use 40/10 so as to hold true to the charts with 10 pound mono.
Perry......I tie my high vis line directly to a snap swivel....then snap on the split ring on the crankbait......works for me.
Thx for the replies.