Not sure about this crankin' thing

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06-25-2014, 07:38 PM
tritonsc

Not sure about this crankin' thing

First time trying pulling cranks was last summer. Maybe caught 10 fish between 3 trips. Went to Sardis today for the first crank pullin' of the year. I got a late start. Fished from Clear to Toby twice. Cranks in the water at 1030. FINALLY hooked up on a fish at 130! Another hr later that was still the only fish so I headed home. I was seeing fish (or what I thought was fish) on the graph between 14-17' in 25-30' of water. Frustrating to say the least. I've seen alot of people having success pulling cranks. Apparently it just not my cup of tea. Lol. Im ready for the fall to get back to drowning minners! Haha
06-25-2014, 07:55 PM
"G"

They will come up some to hit a crankbait but they wont go down.....set your line length to pull your cranks a foot or two above the fish you are seeing...pull them at 1.6 to 1.8 mph
06-25-2014, 08:06 PM
tritonsc

Had the speed right. I was fishing 3 different depths all within the range of what I thought was fish. Maybe that was the problem? Trying to put it right on them instead of a foot or 2 above. Idk.
06-25-2014, 08:35 PM
yikess

Couple of things to consider. If they don't bite where your fishing, move. The crappie at Sardis aren't deep. The undesirable fish will be in the band of fish you see at the 15 foot level. Remember your FF never saw a fish it didn't like. The crappie are the tiny specs you see above the thick band. Use your FF for GPS tracking and speed control and target the 10-12 fish regardless of how deep the water his. That means you should only have 40-60 feet of line out from where it enters the water if your pulling a Bandit 300 with mono. If your using a color that's not working ...change it. Take a range of colors with you and don't forget about chrome if its sunny. Good luck.

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06-25-2014, 08:45 PM
feelay

Hasn't been a very good crank bite at Sardis this week.....at least not for me or anyone I know. Bite will pick up as the summer wears on. Really think they need to gate open the spillway to fire them up.
06-25-2014, 08:55 PM
Donald@CrappieLogic

The hotter it seems to get the better the bite from what I have seen
06-25-2014, 08:59 PM
deltaduk

Keep going. You will figure them out. This is my second summer pulling cranks. It is sure a learning experience.
06-25-2014, 09:05 PM
tritonsc

Quote:

Originally Posted by yikess

Couple of things to consider. If they don't bite where your fishing move. The fish at Sardis aren't deep. Use your FF for GPS tracking and speed control and target the 10-12 fish regardless of how deep the water his. That means you should only have 40-60 feet of line out from where it enters the water. If your using a color that's not working ...change it. Take a range of colors with you and don't forget about chrome if its sunny. Good luck.

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So if my okuma says 75 and say it's 25' before my line enters the water I actually only have 50' out?

Thanks fellas!
06-25-2014, 09:06 PM
Up2Early

Agree with the slow bite comment.

I fished Sardis for 4 hours Monday. I got a late start at 10:30 and caught 3, all solid 13" fish. Not enough action to build a pattern.

Tried Enid for an hour and caught 5, but only two keepers.
06-25-2014, 09:10 PM
yikess

Quote:

Originally Posted by tritonsc

So if my okuma says 75 and say it's 25' before my line enters the water I actually only have 50' out?

Thanks fellas!

Yep, the line that's out of the water doesn't count. It might as well still be on your reel.

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06-25-2014, 09:16 PM
tritonsc

That may just put me on a fish! Lol. Thanks yikess!
06-25-2014, 09:34 PM
hotrod1

Hang in there. Cranking is easy. Trial and Error is key. Also location. Don't be afraid to stop reel up and move a few miles and get back at it. Sardis is huge. Memory is your key to succes.
06-25-2014, 09:39 PM
joekiller

Biting earlier than those 10:30 start times this past weekend. Saturday I had 12 in the boat by 8:15 when couch showed up.;) then by 11 they shut off for us. We moved. Nothing. Moved again .Nothing. went back from where we left em and only caught a few more. Hope this helps !!
06-25-2014, 09:49 PM
Rees Guide

Yeah I like to be on the water early pulling cranks myself, don't give up, go fish, come back, ask questions, go back fishing, when you get it you will have it.
06-25-2014, 10:05 PM
deltadawg9

Not sure about this crankin' thing

Anyone using a line counting reel? If so what kind and maybe best place to purchase online...

I've been having luck, but winging it too on depths.
06-25-2014, 10:11 PM
M R Dux

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltadawg9

Anyone using a line counting reel? If so what kind and maybe best place to purchase online...

I've been having luck, but winging it too on depths.

Okuma Magda 15 reels from Northwoods Wholesale Outlet in Michigan.
06-25-2014, 10:41 PM
hawgdog

Yep.... http://northwoodsoutlet.net/store/in...&product_id=55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdux

Okuma Magda 15 reels from Northwoods Wholesale Outlet in Michigan.
06-26-2014, 06:54 AM
Iwannafish

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Originally Posted by yikess

Yep, the line that's out of the water doesn't count. It might as well still be on your reel.

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Actually, a better way to think of it is as a "right triangle" with the line being the long edge. the tip of your pole is at angle "ab" and the lure is at angle "bc". Acording to the pythagoreum theory...yada yada yada..... the bottom angle is actually "x" feet below the tip of the rod. So if you have your line set for 15 feet out, and your rod tip (point "ab") is 2 feet out of the warter, then the lure (point "bc) is actually only 13 feet under the water. That bottom angle is going to be 15 feet below the upper anlge regardless of how much line is above/below the water........ Lets say these two triangles are the exact same.....the only difference is how high above the water line point "ab" (your rod tip) is located. The only thing that really changes is the location of the other two points. All three sides stay the exact same length... More or less ( friction and resistance make a little impact as well).
06-26-2014, 08:22 AM
Gomer Snerd

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I think the line actually does this.Attachment 166634last year a boat 75 ft away caught my line when I was pulling 125 ft back
06-26-2014, 08:27 AM
Rees Guide

Especially if you are using braid, These clouds stay in here and I am gonna get the jigs back out.
06-26-2014, 08:38 AM
BigRiverMarine

Not sure about this crankin' thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rees Guide

Especially if you are using braid, These clouds stay in here and I am gonna get the jigs back out.

I think that's a good move. At 82-84 degrees, I think the water needs to warm up some to make em bite the cranks better. Might try slowing down some on the cranks like Tommy did to win the championship.
06-26-2014, 10:38 AM
ATM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltadawg9

Anyone using a line counting reel? If so what kind and maybe best place to purchase online...

I've been having luck, but winging it too on depths.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004RD...;robot_redir=1
06-26-2014, 11:04 AM
Up2Early

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Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine

I think that's a good move. At 82-84 degrees, I think the water needs to warm up some to make em bite the cranks better. Might try slowing down some on the cranks like Tommy did to win the championship.

Haven't thought about that. I may be pull too fast at 1.8-2.0. Are most of you running closer to 1.5?
06-26-2014, 12:38 PM
Speck

1.8-2.0 is right in the zone!!!
06-26-2014, 01:54 PM
Iwannafish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Up2Early

Haven't thought about that. I may be pull too fast at 1.8-2.0. Are most of you running closer to 1.5?

Caught good messes Saturday and Sunday on Enid.....

Shallower and slower tthan normal. I was catching them at 10 feet down and 1.5 mph. Not saying that this will still work this weekend, but that is where I am gonna start on Saturday!
06-26-2014, 03:06 PM
SUPERTECHMRI

You do not have to go fast to catch them. Depends on what the fish want that day. I have caught them going so slow that when a big one would hit it would nock the pole completely straight/slack them the pole would load back up. I do alot of pulling from 1.2 - 1.6. Take note if the fish are inhaling the bait or are you pulling them in barely hanging on by one hook.
06-26-2014, 03:12 PM
Gomer Snerd

Quote:

Originally Posted by joekiller

Biting earlier than those 10:30 start times this past weekend. Saturday I had 12 in the boat by 8:15 when couch showed up.;) then by 11 they shut off for us. We moved. Nothing. Moved again .Nothing. went back from where we left em and only caught a few more. Hope this helps !!

Early bird gets the worm.
06-26-2014, 03:29 PM
Up2Early

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPERTECHMRI

Take note if the fish are inhaling the bait or are you pulling them in barely hanging on by one hook.

That's worth the subscription price right there!

Thinking about this week's trip, everything was on the back hook.

It also seems I catch a bunch on the inside baits when turning. I haven't ever considered those patterns as an indicator to change speed.

Thanks for making me think better.
06-26-2014, 04:58 PM
wilbur

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Originally Posted by ATM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004RD...&robot_redir=1

Are you crazy? Them things are high priced.
06-26-2014, 05:47 PM
Gomer Snerd

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Originally Posted by ATM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004RD...&robot_redir=1

cannot hide money!!!
06-26-2014, 06:00 PM
creekslick

Don't knock them till you try them.:twocents
06-26-2014, 07:13 PM
Rees Guide

Smoothest line counter I have had my hands on!!!!!!
06-26-2014, 07:23 PM
"G"

Do the fillets taste any better ? lol :Rofl
06-26-2014, 09:47 PM
feelay

I have a couple, they are very nice.
06-26-2014, 09:56 PM
CatchumDeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by tritonsc

First time trying pulling cranks was last summer. Maybe caught 10 fish between 3 trips. Went to Sardis today for the first crank pullin' of the year. I got a late start. Fished from Clear to Toby twice. Cranks in the water at 1030. FINALLY hooked up on a fish at 130!

Fished Sardis Monday and caught fish much shallower than 130 feet of line but like Yikees said your depth depends on how high your rod tip is above the water. Fish bit way better from 1:00 until 2:30.
06-27-2014, 10:08 AM
bird down

Cranking is not brain science. Spread em out high and low, put every color you got on there. Once you catch a fish, mimic that same pole with another pole. If either of those poles catches again, repeat process. Eventually u will turn into a fish catching machine. On a side note, its not illegal to use minnows right now. They eat those things yr round. Do what u do best.