No more bucket dragging

Bought the boat a 1976 6hp evinrude for a kicker/trolling motor.
Found it on craigslist this morning. The guy wanted 275.00 for it I negotiated him down to 200.00. It has the original owners manual and comes with a brand new 3gal gas can and line plus a qt of quick silver. He said it spent 15 years on his grandads attic.

I called my outboard mechanic friend about it. He went put a compression gauge to it. Both cylinders are even at 125psi. It is now at his shop getting new points, plugs, and condenser.

With his fee for inspection and pickup plus new parts I will have a little less than 300.00 into it. Next will be a connection to the steering control and splice the gasline to feed it.

Just ruins the peace and quiet of being on the lake, JMO. Should work good though. I hate to listen to my 4 stroke run all day and it's whisper quiet.

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Originally Posted by feelay

Just ruins the peace and quiet of being on the lake, JMO. Should work good though. I hate to listen to my 4 stroke run all day and it's whisper quiet.

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I'm thinking this 6hp evinrude will be much quieter than my 60hp yamaha. I hate putting all those hours on a motor that would cost atleast a couple of thousand to replace. Plus gas savings should be pretty good.

Yeah, but everyone is going to hear that thing puttering and think you are Satdoc.:biggrin

I would be surprised if it isn't louder than the Yamaha.

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Originally Posted by feelay

Yeah, but everyone is going to hear that thing puttering and think you are Satdoc.:biggrin

I would be surprised if it isn't louder than the Yamaha.

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Reason Satdoc's is so loud is cause its a 1937 model he got for high school graduation:D

I had a early 70s like that. It is pretty quite. Burns about a gallon of gas every 3 weeks too. Easy start and smooth running, at least mine was. Probably won't last more than another 40 years though.
If it has been sitting that long, better replace the water pump impeller. I suspect the one in it is brittle and even if it pumps to start with it may fail pretty quick. Takes about 30 minutes to replace and pretty cheap too.
SeaRay

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Originally Posted by SeaRay

I had a early 70s like that. It is pretty quite. Burns about a gallon of gas every 3 weeks too. Easy start and smooth running, at least mine was. Probably won't last more than another 40 years though.
If it has been sitting that long, better replace the water pump impeller. I suspect the one in it is brittle and even if it pumps to start with it may fail pretty quick. Takes about 30 minutes to replace and pretty cheap too.
SeaRay

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My mech says it's spitting water like a new one. Says to run it and watch before we replace. This was going to be a winter project but for 200.00 I couldn't pass. But yes that is good advice.

Watch it big boy!

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Originally Posted by feelay

Yeah, but everyone is going to hear that thing puttering and think you are Satdoc.:biggrin

I would be surprised if it isn't louder than the Yamaha.

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You too handi!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by handicrappie

reason satdoc's is so loud is cause its a 1937 model he got for high school graduation:d

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Seems like I am destined to pull these buckets around for awhile longer. The little 6hp looked good sitting on the transom. Try as we might just can't get around the control arm hitting it when the wheel is turned to the left.

Looks like it is time for a kicker bracket. Anyone have experiance with these. Fixed or adjistable ? The kicker wieghs 51# so I don't think I need the expense of Stainless. Looking at aluminum.

Then the issue of auxillary steering. Any ideas would be great. These buckets are going...some day. ds

Need to talk to SatDoc. He ran one on his Tracker.

Don't worry about steering.Lock it straight and steer with the trolling motor.Get the impeller changed before you run it...it WILL break apart and end up in expensive places.I would be very leery of a tech that said run a thirty-plus year old rubber impeller. If your main problem with trolling with your 60 is over speed have you considered cutting down an old/cheap prop?I know a troll plate is also an option but cutting down a prop would have to work.Just cut 1/2 in off till you get the speed you want.Only drawback would be if you had a bunch of water to cover to get to your fish.

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Originally Posted by RTJ214

Don't worry about steering.Lock it straight and steer with the trolling motor.Get the impeller changed before you run it...it WILL break apart and end up in expensive places.I would be very leery of a tech that said run a thirty-plus year old rubber impeller. If your main problem with trolling with your 60 is over speed have you considered cutting down an old/cheap prop?I know a troll plate is also an option but cutting down a prop would have to work.Just cut 1/2 in off till you get the speed you want.Only drawback would be if you had a bunch of water to cover to get to your fish.

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He is changing out the water pump impellar. Told me after thinking a bit more that it just needs to happen.

As far as steering I was wondering about locking the steering on the 6 and using the big motor as a rudder. Dont need or want to turn on a dime just wide sweeping turns. Using the trolling motor kind of is not in the plans. Sitting on the front casting chair using my foot for 6-8 hours a day doesn't work for me. Things got squirrelly when I tried that.

There is a 80 lb. Terrova for sale over in Classifieds

I did the motor/bucket thang......if you ever troll with a trolling motor, you won't go back:twocents

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My mech says it's spitting water like a new one. Says to run it and watch before we replace. This was going to be a winter project but for 200.00 I couldn't pass. But yes that is good advice.

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If its been sitting still for that long I would go ahead and replace the impellar, (water pump). Jmo

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There is a 80 lb. Terrova for sale over in Classifieds

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So won't I be tied to a foot petal if I use a trolling motor that doesn't have ipilot ?

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So won't I be tied to a foot petal if I use a trolling motor that doesn't have ipilot ?

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There is 2 with I pilot in the classifeds

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So won't I be tied to a foot petal if I use a trolling motor that doesn't have ipilot ?

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We use hand controls and works awesome.Tryed the foot control, too much baby sitting.

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Originally Posted by Rees Guide

There is 2 with I pilot in the classifeds

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Thanks, I don't have the $$$ hanging around right now.

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Thanks, I don't have the $$$ hanging around right now.

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Powerdrive is another option, not as good as a Terrova but better than a cable steer foot pedal, at least for pulling cranks, not really anything else. I was able to pick up an old powerdrive from one of the members here for I think I paid $125, paid another $150 for the Copilot add-on and I was all set for less than what you already have in your kicker motor. I think the newer Powerdrive V2s can even be upgraded to Ipilot if you can find one cheap. Id like to eventually get a Terrova but for now this works. I can still get into some tricky situations if its windy and im by myself and trying to land fish but at least I'm not tied to my bow by a foot pedal. If i'm getting too far off course and to busy to steer it back on course I just kill it till I get the fish off and into the cooler, then I start it back up and pick up where i left off, the wind will still blow me around without the trolling motor running but but I've found I get more off course if I leave it running while I'm unable to steer.

My dad has a kicker motor as an emergency backup for his big boat. Set the kicker straight and steer with the big motor. We did this for 17 miles when the big motor spun a prop hub. FYI, a 15 hp. Johnnyrude will push a 20 ft. center console for 17 miles on a six gallon tank if you need it to.

I don't have any experience with the removable plates for auxiliary motors, but it seems to be a good idea.

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Powerdrive is another option, not as good as a Terrova but better than a cable steer foot pedal, at least for pulling cranks, not really anything else. I was able to pick up an old powerdrive from one of the members here for I think I paid $125, paid another $150 for the Copilot add-on and I was all set for less than what you already have in your kicker motor. I think the newer Powerdrive V2s can even be upgraded to Ipilot if you can find one cheap. Id like to eventually get a Terrova but for now this works. I can still get into some tricky situations if its windy and im by myself and trying to land fish but at least I'm not tied to my bow by a foot pedal. If i'm getting too far off course and to busy to steer it back on course I just kill it till I get the fish off and into the cooler, then I start it back up and pick up where i left off, the wind will still blow me around without the trolling motor running but but I've found I get more off course if I leave it running while I'm unable to steer.

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Maybe I should have consulted the crappie.com brain trust before I bought the little 6hp, I have read a lot of good advice and ideas. I still like the idea of another combustion motor. Thank everyone for the help.

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Originally Posted by Wind Knot

My dad has a kicker motor as an emergency backup for his big boat. Set the kicker straight and steer with the big motor. We did this for 17 miles when the big motor spun a prop hub. FYI, a 15 hp. Johnnyrude will push a 20 ft. center console for 17 miles on a six gallon tank if you need it to.

I don't have any experience with the removable plates for auxiliary motors, but it seems to be a good idea.

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I thought about setting the small motor straight and using the big one as a tiller. That would probably work but when the wind comes up on Sardis I get pushed sideways using the big motor now. It can take a pretty good correction with the wheel to get back on course. Mild days I bet that would work fine.

My old man has used a 6 hp (4-stroke) on his 2180 Carolina Skiff for about 10 years. He steers while trolling with the big motor. If he needs to (rare) he can grab the tiller handle to make a tighter turn. He has a homemade jackplate similar to this one: Mini-Jacker for Clamp-on Outboards | Bass Pro Shops