Three men convicted of poaching wild turkeys - WTVA.com
Well the MDWFP has caught the only set of road hunters in Yalobusha county. Sentence was a little light in my book.
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Three men convicted of poaching wild turkeys - WTVA.com
Well the MDWFP has caught the only set of road hunters in Yalobusha county. Sentence was a little light in my book.
nonono
18 years of hunting turkey illegally, that's not even a day in jail per year. Perhaps the financial penalty will be a bit stiffer than the jail time.
what a joke 10 days
Very common practice here, amlost an daily afternoon thing.
Game wardens could have a field day with their decoys but then again with results like these what is the point in catching these thugs if the judges are going to turn them loose?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I don't know all the details here, so I don't know what these guys were doing with their turkeys. If they were "poaching" the turkeys and taking them home to put up to feed their families, then any jail time is ridiculous and is another fine example of why I am anti-government.
I'm a redneck, hick, countrified to core, and any other cliche you can think of. I grew up with 6 brothers and sisters, and if my daddy hadn't "poached" deer every chance he got, we would not have known what meat tasted like. Unfortunately, the legal hunting seasons are not always long enough to gather enough food to do the job, so I ain't too quick to judge folks for stepping out of legally created seasons if they need food to eat.
However, if they were just killing turkeys for the fun of it, it could be a different situation. I don't know the facts. The WTVA article didn't say much about it. I am curious as to why any of the guys would admit to 18 years of it. If I was in his corner, I'd recommended against such an admittance.
Know all 3 of em, they ain't gonna quit and they ain't hungeryQuote:
Originally Posted by bigcrappiemax
I defer to your knowledge of the men and their situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I am not supporting the killing of whatever whenever by whomever. I cannot imagine what would motivate a person to kill a bunch of turkeys if they didn't need the meat whether it was in season or out of season. Every year, I kill exactly 8 deer. That's how many I need to feed my family and my in-laws for one year. If there was a year in which I killed only 7 during the season, I would kill one out of season, because I need 8. If I kill my 8 deer early in the season, I quit hunting, and if not, I go till the season ends. I'm not a sportsman, and I do not consider hunting to be a sport. It is what I do to get food that is not loaded down with growth hormones and God-only-knows-what, and hunting is not a sport in any sense that I can understand.
Without more information, it is hard to form an opinion of the guys in this article unless you know them personally. WTVA needs to do a followup on the story and provide information for the people who do not know them. If they are guilty of something that is wrong, I think that they should stop. If they are guilty of something that is illegal, it does not mean very much to me.
While I will respect your opinions, you are breaking the law. We have them for a reason whether you like them or not. I don't go catch over the limit of fish to feed my family. I don't dive 100 mph cause I think the law is ridiculous. I'm not trying to start anything here but killing out of season cause you need 8 deer a year is not right. Also, we don't need any additional information on the three subjects...they were hunting out of season and got caught. That's a fact jack.
Ok I read the article. Wow it took them only eight yrs to catch them. These wildlife officers need to be working for the NSA. :biggrin
Their are plenty of folks out there that kill for the thrill of it. Laws and regs don't mean anything to them. They sell the meat or even worse leave it to rot. I suspect that's what these guys were doing. It doesn't make a lot of sense to spend $40 worth of gas driving around trying to shoot something to feed your family when you could spend the same money on a sure thing at the grocery store.
There is someone that post ads on Memphis craigslist, fish for sale. He is holding a bass by his face and list other game fish. Can't make email reports to TWRA, just phone calls.
Rip, don't think nothing about causing trouble with me. I ain't offended easily, and I respect others' opinions. Like you said, I was only stating my view on it, and I know it is not exactly a popular opinion. To me, it seems that our primary disagreement is over the definition of "right."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip a Lip
Just curious then, do you bother to buy a hunting or fishing license? By your logic, doesn't buying a license infringe upon your rights to take game anytime your hungry?
Am I a poacher too?
I have called the city for animal control a few times. Never have seen anyone here to help. Squirrels and raccoons do a number on my garden and fruit trees. So I trap and relocate them.
No.....your just a PBR gewber lol :RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by canebreaker
Hey crappie max. I think you live pretty close to me so send me a pm and I will give you my number if u want. I can give you plenty of deer meat and you will not have to break the law. I kill LOTS of deer for management purposes. After killing them they go into a walk in cooler. I process(myself) what my friends and family can eat in one year and give the rest to family's in need. I would be glad to give you your 8 deer and you could save the time and money it takes to hunt deer. It's a sport to me but I do somewhat see what you are talking about. We have laws for a reason though. Without them the supply would be diminished by greed.
You are absolutely right. Having to buy a license reduces the "right" to a "privilege", but I do purchase them as told. I thank God that I am not in such financial condition as would warrant my killing anytime I am hungry, but I do appreciate eating food that is not manufactured or grown by a government that I am certain is not concerned with mine or my family's best interests. Some people are in that condition, and in their cases, I do not think they are wrong to take what they need. The article did not give me the information I would need to make a judgement call in that instance. Ree's said he knew them, and I am happy to defer to his knowledge in this case. In other cases, the result is not clear without knowing the situation. Did they break the law? Sure. The law saying that something is illegal does not affect whether that same thing is or is not right. Are they criminals? Sure. That does not make them wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip a Lip
Again, this is all my opinion.
I think what you are doing is a great thing. I considered doing something similar, but I don't have the space for storage or the processing knowledge to do it. I appreciate the offer for the deer, but I think it would be selfish and lazy to take it out of the mouths of people who need it. If you have room and if the need is there, I would be happy to donate any deer over my eight to advance your charitable efforts. Let me know where you are if you are interested in some help.Quote:
Originally Posted by bird down
We do have laws for a reason, but the problem with the reason is that it seeks to serve the greater good. When the greater good is protected it is often done so at the expense of individuals. The reason I suspect is to protect the population of animals so that those who want to and have the means to can hunt. The reason does not seem to take into consideration those who cannot hunt very often during a particular season, those who are unlucky in locating animals, or primarily the need of the individuals. I am not opposed to laws in general, but I am opposed to thinking that they should always be applied in the same manner regardless of the circumstances. I am aware that I am being idealistic about this. In this life, I know that laws will never operate to protect those who need protection while also punishing those who need punishment. I suppose we do the best we can with what we have.
Now who's up for a TURKEY dinner with all the fixin's?????:biggrin
Taken leagally at the local Price Chopper of course!
I just want to say that Crappie.Com supports good sportsmanship and does not condone nor approve of the takeing of any fish or game by violating the rules and laws. This site is about teaching a youngster to fish, being a good citizen, and helping others etc.
G, while I do not necessarily agree with all of it, I can say that two out of three ain't bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
I'm happy to drop this poaching discussion before I get banned. Fish on my friends!
Consider it dropped. I'm closing this thread per previous suggestion.
"This site is about teaching a youngster to fish, being a good citizen, and helping others." It all applies.