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I went to my home lake yesterday after work and tried to long line. I caught 19 but stayed tangled up cause I could not get to the poles fast enough or they were running too close to each other. Also the poles on the front of the boat would always get hung up on the main engine. I was running 1.0 to 1.2 mph and had lines running from 9 to 12 ft. Lost a lot of fish cause I could not get to them fast enough. Need some help on set up. Thanks
Maybe Bernard or Brad will see this.
Torch, I mainly pull mine off the back to keep out of the big motor. I'll even raise the big motor out of the water and let the Ipilot drive. I'll use 4 poles across the back. The middle 2 are 6 foot Phlueger Presidents. Then my outside lines are 10 foot B&M PST's then off the side of the boat I'll have either 12 or 16 foot PST's. Larger hooks in your jigs will hang more fish also.
It just so happens that I became a long lining expert yesterday myself. So what ya wanna know?
I was only running 3 rods, but I staggered the weight with 2 on one side and it seemed to help. Still got a couple of tangles though.
Wannabe...
thanks fur posting i needed a good laugh this morning....Quote:
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Maybe Gabowman will see this, think LL is about all he does so I'm sure he can help.
Where can I find Bernard's article on it?
Wannabe...
thought u became a expert yesterday???Quote:
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Speck I was running 2 pst 8 ft. 2 pst10 ft, 2 pst 12's and 2 pst14's off the back I was running 2 pst10's and 2 16's on the front. I think that is way too many poles for one guy. I am going back after work and try again.
Yeah. We need a full blown how to w/pikshures
That's a bunch of poles to keep up with!!!
http://www.magnoliacrappieclub.com/a...LongLining.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Wannabe...
I run two poles off each side two 14's and two 10's. I only let out about 35 ft. of line, no weights, just the jig.....I controll the depth with my speed, speed up to go shallower and slow down to go deeper. So far I have only used Donnys jigs tied on Satdocs sickle runners.
Torch, I use the same setup I use to pull cranks with for the sides of my boat. I usually run 6 poles if I am by myself. 2-12s 2-8s and 2-6s. I don't use weight put the jig or jigs.
And yes you are an expert. An ex is a has been and a spert is a big drip.RoflQuote:
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The depth chart is great, but I found a flaw in it. 2 1/32 jigs should run shallower than 2 1/24ths. I think these are in the wrong order on the chart. They say that 1-1/32 runs shallower than 1-1/24th as it should, being a bit lighter. Has to be the same with 2. Great articles though. Thanks Scott for the post.
+ 1,000,000................lol.Quote:
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Thanks for the link Scott. Now it's time to stock up on more jigs.:D
I use MINNERS!
I did, but I promised Bernard I'd read his article to see if he made any mistakes.Quote:
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No weights were added to my jigs, but I did run a 1/8 Road runner on one, 2 1/16 on one and a 1/16 and a 1/32nd on the other. Course with only 3 poles, it wasn't much of a chore, but with a bazillion poles, it might help some. My real trouble comes not tangling in turns or when putting out lines, but when I catch a fish and try to drag it back in through all that mess.
Wannabe...
Does that mean u only got tangled once, when you caught your 1 fish?
Why long line? Why not jus push em out the front a little faster with a double rig and a weight?
Thanks good read.
For some reason they hit it better long lining. I dont know if it because the baits are farther away from boat or the speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnerman
Well, I shore aint no xpert on LL, but it didn't take me but one time of pulling out the front to know I had to put my motor in gear b4 starting the pulling. The prop turning will tangle you up bad in a turn. I run bout 1.2 with 2- 1/8oz RRs on each line, with bout 35-40 fol, tip of pole bout 1-1 1/2 ft above the water. I think that makes a big difference. Where I have learned the most was at Wolf Lake where it's flat and bout 12 ft deep and it's no problem knowing when you dragging the bottom. My 35-40 ft will run bout 10-11 ft deep, 45 drags the bottom. You can judge from there how much line and speed you need to do what. Gives you a good idea of what will happen when you change number jigs, sizes/weights too.
I also make my own RRs and it matters what size blade you use, so find some you like and stick with that until you get the hang of it.
And you never stop. If you do all of your rods will be hung on the bottom.Quote:
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Thanks ole wise oneQuote:
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Awesome how-to article, thanks for sharing!Quote:
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I noticed in his 'Jigs Used' that some are little flutter spoons, something that I've always used in more of a vertical presentation - either shortcasting to let glide back to me, or dropping straight down to jig or yo-yo (for sand bass). I'm curious how and/or why they would work in this presentation, and if anyone uses them to cast and retrieve?
Spoons are fer nanner puddin. It's jus that simple.
Good Article Thanks Scott
I aint no expert but longline is how i fish. i pull 8 poles out the back and 8 out the front. in the back length dont matter to me, mostly 6 footers back there. front i have 6,8,10,12. fan em out where they have some distance at the tips. rig with a single 1/16 or double 1/16 or 1/16 with #5 split shot. sometimes change up to 1/24 or 1/32 in the spring. i use only extra light wire hooks with 4lb or 6lb line. how much line to let out is the hardest part for me. usually start with a good pitch out to see what happens and watch the depth finder to see if i need more line out or take up some. tough to get right sometimes, just a feel thing ya get after awhile. i also count the line out, rod tip on water pick pole up vertical (x) amount of times usally 4 or 5 maybe more or less, flip the bail and use the 1 one thousand trick some of the time. the back has a lot more line out than the front. helps with the tangles between front and back too. i pull .7 to 1.5 mph but 1 mph works the best for me most of the time. make wide turns and speed up in the turns to help keep em up. get the fish up on top quick as ya can . when tangles happen i just cut em and retie. i think the extra light wire hooks help more than anything though, i dont break off near as much. i always put the big motor in gear too. i like the southern pro bodies the best but do use some awd tripple tails.
Thanks for your input DEX.
I like to use the same size poles out the back (9' Roger Gant). Side of the boat I like longer poles 10',12' and 14'. Tangles are a part of life when you L.L. I would suggest start out using the same style jig head, same body( Bobby Garland Stroll'R ) is the best. A good spinning reel helps alot. I believe line size, speed and jig size are the #1 way to determine trolling depth. It takes some TOW.
Get ready to retie a TON but I love it.
try it with 2 rods, 1 rod per side, 2 jigs per rod, much easier, more time fishing rather than dealing w/ 6/8/10 rods . Reel 'em in when you need to make a turn or want to run over the same track/structure as you just did. More time fishing, less tangles, less headaches, more fun. I have never had a tangle LL'g this way, I sit and watch the two rods on the bow and the FF, and control the boat. Well, now the Ipilot controls the boat for the most part, so I have even more fun.
How long does it take to clear out a tangle, that time could be spent fishing. jmo.
Dex pretty much described exactly how I do it too. Heavier jigs or doubles up front and lighter or singles out back. Also Brad is right about trying to run identical style heads and line size too. Pline 4Lbs is as strong as any 6 I have used, but I like the Viscious 6 hiviz in bulk spools.
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Why do ya'll run 6 pound test instead of 10? 6 seems to be asking for it as far as breaking off a good fish.
Wannabe...
Torch, I've been in Clearwater FL working all week, haven't had time to respond, headed home at the moment. Sitting in the Tampa Airport. Here's my take.
In order to get longlining down you have to FORGET about catching a bunch of fish at first. Don't use more poles than you can handle. Pick an area that's fairly stump and brushpile free. You can't let hangups and loosing jigs get the best of you or make you get disgusted with this technique. It works well at times and at times you may seem like you're wasting your time. Don't give up.
A few tips:
1. Speed determines depth
2. Jig weight determines depth
3. Amount of line determines depth
4. Start out with light weight jigs, 1/32nd and 1/16th.
5. Make slight turns as often as possible.
Ok. Gotta get on the plane more to come later.
Always gotta be one smartaz in the bunch. ;) Can't disagree with ya there though. If you ever make it into a Charlie's Chicken be sure to try their nanner puddin...it's a deal maker!Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnerman
Thanks Bernard, I have a lot of issues to resolve but I understand the technique. Now its fish and apply what I have learned.