Did I read this correctly

Hello folks, I have been doing alot of research on the terrova I pilot. In the new BPS catalog it mentioned about the sonar unit being inside the unit. Ok so I did some looking around and went to Minn kota site and it looks like they are mounting them inside the motor unit. So it looks like it is going to be smooth unit on the outside.

So does anyone know for sure about this and has anyone seen any in stores yet. I am going to buy one soon but would like to know if I need to wait for the new ones to come out.

Thanks
Clint

Are you refering to the Universal Sonar? If so this is just the transducer mounted inside the motor and requires a specal cable to match it to your sonar unit. You need to make sure it is compatible.

You have to get the Terrova models that have US2.....that is the sonar transducer. It will work with most HB, and Lowrance units. This built in transducer is for 2-D sonar.....so if you hook a side imaging unit to it all it will show is 2D sonar. Some folks like them....others would rather use their own transducer that goes with their fishfinder. When I buy my Terrova, I intend to get the model with the US2 built in transducer

Thanks for the replys, maybe I should have been a little more clearer. From what I understand the US2 sonar TD was basicly a moulded piece of the motor housing that protruded from the bottom of the motor unit somewhat simular to the skag on the motor housing.

From what I was reading, the new ones are intergall, or inside the motor housing. (From what I am told the Motorguides are this way) So that the Td is not protruding from the bottom. I guess the reason I am asking is because when I get the the HB 798 HD SI, the TD wont fit on the bottom of the TM because ot the universal sonar would be in the way. *This I have read on here that it is too long to fit both.

So I would have to buy the TM with out the TD. But if it (TD) is inside the motor unit I can get the Universal and still fit the SI TD on the motor.

Thanks for the help
Clint

OK....here is what they all tell me. Side imaging will not work with the US2. Side imaging really should not be on your TM anyway because of all the turning of the motor your images would be blurred. Also the side imaging works best at speeds from 3 to 5 mph. The US2 is integral with the Terrova motor housing....the ones that I have seen have a slight pertrusion. One went out on a friends TM and he fastened another transducer to the TM with a large hose clamp. If you hook the US2 to your side imaging FF all you are going to show is 2D....it will not side image because it is a 2D transducer

Lotta money to just handicap yourself as far as electronics. Not real sure about the newer models, but theres only a decent percentage of units that will work with it. No SI and I'm unsure of the DI from what I've read. I'd get the one without the built-in myself, but theres always exceptions. On a positive note, I know some guys that really limited there success because of their racing on the TM, 45*angles on a "tightline". Now they're on some fish, being able to hold still. Even bragging about replacing their 20 yr old electric knives.

There's a lot of threads on here that talk about the "noise" that the US2 causes and you need to add ferrets to the line to cover it up. Seems like a problem that could be avoided by just putting a TD on the TM and saving the extra cost of the US2 JMO

Ok folks, THanks for the replys, but I must not be asking the correct question or the question correctly. I have read and read a lot threads on here and I did learn a few of the things you have mentioned. I am aware of the down falls of the us2 and also that you can not use it with SI. I also appreciate the suggestion to just use the factory TD.

Maybe I should put it this way. Forget that I am going to use a Fish finder at all.

What I am trying to ask is on the bottom of the Minn kota Terrova with US2 with I pilot. At the bottom of the drive motor is the TD still sticking out the bottom, somewhat like a second skag, or is the TD mounted inside the motor housing, so that the only thing on the bottom, or outside the motor housing is the skag? I think that it is inside now but I havent been able to confirm it.

Thanks for the help and I hope I explained it better.
Clint

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It's the bump at the nose of the motor housing sticking down....

Someone here is bound to have a closer pic...

Rickie

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

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It's the bump at the nose of the motor housing sticking down....

Someone here is bound to have a closer pic...

Rickie

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As I understand his question, he is asking if the bump shown in the picture is gone from the latest model of that motor. I don't know but maybe someone with the latest motor may see this. Or Rescue you might try calling their customer service tech line.

It really does not matter, old style you can still use any transducer the factory ships with your unit, just add a small spacer the same width of the nose on the terrova us2, no problem, Now as far as the noise, I had three depth finders that I could not use on the terrova us2 all of the from the same company, I searched and found a brand that worked and works well, Lowrance had no problem working on the us2 with or with out the internal transducer. I hooked up the transducer the Lowrance came with and I think it worked as well or maby a bit better than the us2 did,, the us2 was just less wires in the way. so If the new ones are like the old ones go ahead and get one you will be happy verry happy

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Originally Posted by beagle man

It really does not matter, old style you can still use any transducer the factory ships with your unit, just add a small spacer the same width of the nose on the terrova us2, no problem, Now as far as the noise, I had three depth finders that I could not use on the terrova us2 all of the from the same company, I searched and found a brand that worked and works well, Lowrance had no problem working on the us2 with or with out the internal transducer. I hooked up the transducer the Lowrance came with and I think it worked as well or maby a bit better than the us2 did,, the us2 was just less wires in the way. so If the new ones are like the old ones go ahead and get one you will be happy verry happy

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This is interesting as justinp61 never did get his Lowrance working satisfactory with the US2...

Must be more to the interference issue than just the US2 itself...?

Rickie

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Originally Posted by cray

As I understand his question, he is asking if the bump shown in the picture is gone from the latest model of that motor. I don't know but maybe someone with the latest motor may see this. Or Rescue you might try calling their customer service tech line.

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DING DING DING. You sir have hit the nail on the head. So does anyone have any ideas on weather or not it has been moved?

Thanks
Clint

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

This is interesting as justinp61 never did get his Lowrance working satisfactory with the US2...

Must be more to the interference issue than just the US2 itself...?

Rickie

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Rickie, I never did get my Humminbird 747C to work correctly, the HDS 5 worked perfect.

And from what I can tell, you can't get a Terrova with I-Pilot that doesn't have US. At least I didn't see one anywhere I looked.

I just bought (in February) a Terrova us2 from cabelas. I guess it is the "new one" (?). The us2 TD is like the picture of the foot control in rnvinc's report. There is plenty of room to mount another TD.

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Originally Posted by shadboy

I just bought (in February) a Terrova us2 from cabelas. I guess it is the "new one" (?). The us2 TD is like the picture of the foot control in rnvinc's report. There is plenty of room to mount another TD.

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Thanks Shadboy, I got the Cabelas catalog today and was reading in there that is indeed inside the unit.

Thanks for the post
Clint

No, the hump is there. That is the Universal Sonar. The hump is not on the models with out US2. I have a Terrova 101 with IP and a Terrova 80/us2/IP and they are the bomb!

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Originally Posted by rescue.tech

Thanks Shadboy, I got the Cabelas catalog today and was reading in there that is indeed inside the unit.

Thanks for the post
Clint

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If it doesn't have the hump, it doesn't have the transducer.

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Originally Posted by Allan

If it doesn't have the hump, it doesn't have the transducer.

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Not true. I have the terrova with us2. You would not know it was there if you did not look at the bottom of the motor. It is about 2" in diameter. I sticks up into the motor a 1/2 in. I have it hooked to my 788 and it works great. I have the HB transducer on the back of the boat. I flip a switch and it Will read from the front. Flip the switch again it it will read from the back. I will post a pick of the us2 when I get home.

Talked to minn kota over the phone and they told me it looked the way it did in previous years? I am considering a new TM and wanted to see if this was an option, and apparently it is. Please do post a pic. when you can. I stand corrected.

Here is a pic of my us2.Attachment 55447Attachment 55448

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Originally Posted by shadboy

I just bought (in February) a Terrova us2 from cabelas. I guess it is the "new one" (?). The us2 TD is like the picture of the foot control in rnvinc's report. There is plenty of room to mount another TD.

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I have had mine for about 18 months. Cabelas sent you a old one if it has a hump on the bottom. Mine came straight from the plant when I got mine.

Is the terrova the only one like that?

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Originally Posted by Fishon!SC

Not true. I have the terrova with us2. You would not know it was there if you did not look at the bottom of the motor. It is about 2" in diameter. I sticks up into the motor a 1/2 in. I have it hooked to my 788 and it works great. I have the HB transducer on the back of the boat. I flip a switch and it Will read from the front. Flip the switch again it it will read from the back. I will post a pick of the us2 when I get home.

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Thanks FishonSC, thanks for the pics that answered the questions I had.

Thanks
Clint

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Originally Posted by Fishon!SC

Here is a pic of my us2.Attachment 55447Attachment 55448

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I may be wrong but this looks like a Powerdrive instead of a Terrova to me. My old PDV2 was just like the one in your picture. The skeg is in a different location from Terrova, hmmm, unless MinnKota has changed how the foot is designed.

Now ya got me wondering.........but thats definitely a terrova bracket. I just looked at MK's site and BPS, that foot is just like the old and new powerdive model but everything else looks like Terrova. I guess they've changed..........

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Originally Posted by Allan

Is the terrova the only one like that?

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That I do not know. I do know if you get it from anchor express it will come from the plant. They do not stock it. Mine was made 72 hrs before I got it. Had not been sitting in some warehouse getting knocked around. Get the quick release mount. Takes about 30 secs. to take off the boat and lock up.

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Originally Posted by the crappie soldier

I may be wrong but this looks like a Powerdrive instead of a Terrova to me. My old PDV2 was just like the one in your picture. The skeg is in a different location from Terrova, hmmm, unless MinnKota has changed how the foot is designed.

Now ya got me wondering.........but thats definitely a terrova bracket. I just looked at MK's site and BPS, that foot is just like the old and new powerdive model but everything else looks like Terrova. I guess they've changed..........

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It sure is a Terrova.

I just got mine in a few weeks ago (manufactured in 2010) and it looks like the foot on this Fortrex.

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I ordered mine from Cabelas early February, and mine looks just like the above picture...It's only three weeks old.

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Originally Posted by Fishon!SC

It sure is a Terrova.

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Oh I didnt doubt ya Fishon but that foot sure is different than what most terrovas have that I've seen and I'm sure its exactly like my old PD V2 was. But that is a Terrova for sure, lol.

hump that is, like the pic in Big Ridge's post. Wierd....

Maybe mine is the old one. Not sure. I have had mine for alittle bit.