when I was 13-14 years old dad was stationed in germany, and once in a while we'd go into their stores. they had bobbers like nothing I'd ever seen before or since. they where works of art. people, if the thill bobber is the only ones youve seen, that ain't it. there are a few companies handling the real deal, but I havent chased them down either. they bank fish over there for the most part, and I remember seeing them throwing a handfull of dyed maggots over by their bobber, to attract fish. sorry ship, I got to ramblin. anyone know a good source?