Thread: European or American

[QUOTE=deathb4disco;

For most American fishing, however, all you really need is a waggler for lakes/ponds and an Avon-type float for rivers.[/QUOTE]


Hey Db4D my friend,

You said a mouthful there my friend. That's pretty much all you need. You got me hooked on Wagglers about three years ago. I will use the small profile cigar float 40% of the time and a Waggler 60% of the time. It depends upon weather conditions and the type lure I am using on the dropper technique. http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-...eep-photo.html

Disco, Looks like I just got the wrong dealer. If I was trying to promote european products for use in the US I wouldn't consider sending incomplete floats. All considered that type wouldn't work for most of my fishing anyway. I don't even own a 50 ft. hi tech. carbon rod. That was considered to be humor of course. lol I seen a Thill video one time.

Ship- Those wagglers do work! Especially on choppy water. I am just a little too set in my ways sometimes I guess. I have a couple in case I can't work my way around the chop. A lot of the time I just tightline with a soft rod when it's like that.
I may get a couple different sizes of them this spring as I want to play with the spoons from the float tube for aa change of pace. So many methods-so little time. ole Mike

Originally Posted by Illinoisgiller

Disco, Looks like I just got the wrong dealer. If I was trying to promote european products for use in the US I wouldn't consider sending incomplete floats.

Mike,

Not sure who you bought the floats from, but English/European floats typically do not come with the silicone included, and no English shop would think to ask if you wanted some. They would just assume you could buy it here in the US. If you ever decide to try again, PM me and I'll give you the name of some good English tackleshops.

Originally Posted by Illinoisgiller

I don't even own a 50 ft. hi tech. carbon rod.

I do! :D

It's not necessary, though. As I said before, most people would benefit just from learning the waggler.

Being realistic, I guess expecting a English shop to ask about the line keepers would be akin to expecting the Grizz shop to ask about shot for my floats. lol I need to be more realistic.
I have never felt the need to get to that level of balance and resistance in a float, but can see where it would present a challange.
I just like to fish and and even when I pull out my fly rod this spring it will likely be adorned for the first time with a tiny foam football float that was gifted to me a short time ago. ole Mike

Originally Posted by deathb4disco

Mike,

Not sure who you bought the floats from, but English/European floats typically do not come with the silicone included, and no English shop would think to ask if you wanted some. They would just assume you could buy it here in the US. If you ever decide to try again, PM me and I'll give you the name of some good English tackleshops.



I do! :D

It's not necessary, though. As I said before, most people would benefit just from learning the waggler.

Thill, I think, sells short silicone tubes with swivels in them, very handy. I thought it was their idea. I guess not.

I,ve been using various kinds of Thill slip floats for years. I saw an artical in In-Fisherman about Euro bank fishing methods and adopted some of them. I've had a lot of success with my US adaptions.

I feel the fact that 7 people have voted Euro so far says alot for quality UK tackle. 7 years ago this may not have even be a topic, let alone have recevied 7 votes. Good post ~ship.

On another note I'm not looking forward to all the "new" ameri/euro-style anglers here in the states as the ameri/euro carpers will bicker over every little thing. That's why I fish solo most of the time. Peace~Quiet~Nature~ and me.

Originally Posted by BasicallyBluegill

I feel the fact that 7 people have voted Euro so far says alot for quality UK tackle. 7 years ago this may not have even be a topic, let alone have recevied 7 votes.

I first heard about Euro floats in 1993. Euro tackle was getting a lot of good press, mostly from In-Fisherman. Despite that, it hasn't caught on as well as I thought it would. In-Fisherman seemed kind of confused about it as well. Matt Straw wrote an article a year or so ago where he basically said, "We've been promoting European floats for years, but this advice seems to (mostly) fall on deaf ears." That's not a direct quote, but it's pretty close. This may be due to bad experiences like Mike mentioned above or lack of good instruction on how to use the tackle.

Originally Posted by BasicallyBluegill

That's why I fish solo most of the time. Peace~Quiet~Nature~ and me.

Amen to that.

I am glad people like this post. Lots of good ideas here. I submitted a lure design to be fished under a European type float to In-Fisherman Magazine. This is the email I just received. It appears as if it will be a deadly combination.

Quote December 4, 2008 from Doug Stange, Editor in Chief In-Fisherman Magazine.

"Michael, The dropper rig looks good. I’ve watched a lot of underwater video of dropper rigs in action and there are a lot of times the fish hit the spoon instead of the dropper jig; so your single-hook on the weight idea is a good one."

I like the standard Betts brand 2-3" red styrofoam cork with the weight on the bottom. Note that this is for stationary fishing; IE worms, crickets, minners. Besides, I can get a pack or two at my local Walmart for like $1.08 for a pack of 3.