I've no doubt everyone who think its impossible that winter kill is the cause lack of LM bass in our local ponds, thank goodness I don't target them like I used to when Lake Mead water level was at 70 to 85% full when I moved to Southern Nevada. Could be just coincident they were over-harvested, but as the fishes getting smaller so are my arsenal of tackles, hence why I ended up here in the UL/panfish forum...