I've been using a Thill shy bite float for the past few weeks. Seems the slightest tap from the fish starts to take it under, which I like .

Elkhunter, I've noticed that as well, if they're aggressive I've noticed the splash from the float seems to draw attention to the bait. I've had a few trips where if they didn't hit it after the first 5 seconds after the splash they weren't going to.