Quote Originally Posted by tnpondmanager View Post

As to the contention that “most scientific facts are eventually proven to be false,” I think that takes the cake for the weakest single claim that has been made in this entire conversation. I think you have confused yahoo news articles on diet fads with actual science. I am by no means one who buys everything science says; for instance, I don’t believe humans evolved from primates. But to suggest that most science is false holds about as much water as asserting that the earth really is flat. If that were true, everyone who contracted cancer would die; there would be no such thing as nuclear weapons, or for that matter electricity, or engines, or airplanes, or modern medicine, or herbicides, or agriculture…Granted, some of the participants in this thread pretend as though science did not exist, or were not relevant to the lakes they fish.
Hold on there a minute, hoss ... you've just proved my point --- we thought the earth WAS flat, and the center of the universe ... we thought the plague was "bad air" ... we thought it was impossible to fly ... we thought "cars" would never replace horses ... we thought the universe only included the Milky Way Galaxy ... and so on. Disproving what "science" says is possible/impossible is called progress. Even scientists will admit that a lot of what was once believed to be the "answer" to their question, turns out to be wrong ... that's where we get the saying "back to the drawing board".

As to the sneaker males/satellite males ... that was an excerpt from a scientific study. That it may disagree with "your" studies, is no fault of mine. It only serves to prove that not all studies agree with your contentions. The study also showed that many of the parental males LEFT the nest immediately after fertilization ... losing 100% of the clutch to predation. The fact that ANY sneaker males get in on the act, dilutes the genetics ... as does the satellite males "crossdressing" ruse.

As to this statement : "some biologists believe that many males in a population will delay sexual maturity when there are larger males present, but will mature at a much smaller size - as little as 3" ... I would have to wonder if they weren't referring to "sneaker males" ??

Again, I have to remark that bullying members that do not agree with your ideas, is no way to recruit anyone to your side of the discussion. "My way or the highway" attitude never has won any debate.

... cp