Thanks dixieangler, I found a pic on yahoo for those keel hooks but I have never seen them in the store. Bet I would find them in the fly tieing section.

I may just stick to bending my own. Come to think of it when I was a kid we put to good use a few hundred jig hooks that my dad bought at a garage sale. I guess the physics is about the same, with the eye and the point of the hook a bit more closely aligned. A week ago I had great luck with #2 VMC short shanked circle hooks at the same location.