Is this a pumpkinseed?

**Barnacle Bill** · 09-10-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by NIMROD

Your link did not work for me. This one works . Fliers are different than Punkinseed.
Flier (fish) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks Nimrod. According to Wikipedia he is showing us a Flier.

**crappielimits** · 09-11-2012, 06:36 AM

That is definitely not a Flier. Flier live only in swampy waters with a high tanic acid level, they are very prevalent in several lakes in my area. The fish in the picture is a pumkinseed and that species doesn't do well with the subtropical temps in my area and high acidity levels of our lakes. Two totally different species. Fliers are also called Flie Perch, Flie Bream, and Coon Bream. I saw a pic of a flier on here a few weeks ago I will try to find that post and add a link.

**crappielimits** · 09-11-2012, 06:46 AM

This is a flier! See the eyes are similiar to a walleye or sauger. They feed in low light conditions.
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**CrappiePappy** · 09-11-2012, 08:18 AM

Yep ... Wademaster's fish is definitely a Pumpkinseed, and not a Flyer. But, you know ... when I look at the Flyer in Crappielimits picture ... I'm reminded of some pics that were shown on the site, identified as Crappie without the usual black markings. Now I'm wondering if those fish were actually LARGE Flyers ... and possibly state or world record fish

... cp

**wademaster** · 09-11-2012, 10:31 AM

thanks for all of the input guys; i really appreciate it and the clarifications between the two species; good fishin to ya

**hairy lures** · 09-11-2012, 11:12 AM

There is a pond in N. Illinois where they are actually red, white and blue! (no yellow or orange) Ya gotta' salute when you catch one!

**wademaster** · 09-11-2012, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by hairy lures

There is a pond in N. Illinois where they are actually red, white and blue! (no yellow or orange) Ya gotta' salute when you catch one!

you should catch some and post pics

**hairy lures** · 09-11-2012, 04:05 PM

Wish I could, but I live 350 miles away from there now.

**joewildlife** · 09-13-2012, 11:10 AM

The fish shown is definitely a Pumkinseed, Lepomis gibbosus. This is the very colorfull little panfish that is very common in the upper midwest. I'm thinking northern states like Iowa, northern Indiana, Michigan, Massechusetts, etc.
As far as what could be the most attractive panfish, I think it goes to the Longear Sunfish, Lepomis megalotis, of the lower midwest. Common in Missouri, Indiana, and Kentucky from my own experience.
That is a HUGE flier in the pic, correctly identified as a Centrarchus macropterus. It is fairly "unrelated" to the sunfishes (Lepomis), crappies (Pomoxis), or any other panfish for that matter.
Sorry, can't help it...years of fisheries training got me speaking Latin.
Joe

**CrappiePappy** · 09-13-2012, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by joewildlife

The fish shown is definitely a Pumkinseed, Lepomis gibbosus. This is the very colorfull little panfish that is very common in the upper midwest. I'm thinking northern states like Iowa, northern Indiana, Michigan, Massechusetts, etc.
As far as what could be the most attractive panfish, I think it goes to the Longear Sunfish, Lepomis megalotis, of the lower midwest. Common in Missouri, Indiana, and Kentucky from my own experience.
That is a HUGE flier in the pic, correctly identified as a Centrarchus macropterus. It is fairly "unrelated" to the sunfishes (Lepomis), crappies (Pomoxis), or any other panfish for that matter.
Sorry, can't help it...years of fisheries training got me speaking Latin.
Joe

Joe ... I'd have to agree with you on the Longear !! (what my late Grandfather used to call "redbellies")

We have Fliers in KY ... but I can't honestly say I've ever seen one, or caught one. Not really even sure which lakes may possibly have them. I have seen some of the Virginia members mention catching them, though.

... cp

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